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possible disc herniations please read!

formerweightlifterfformerweightlifter Posts: 196
edited 02/08/2015 - 3:09 PM in Lower Back Pain
unfortunately i have a long rap sheet of issues. i have had a bad back since 2008 due to weightlifting. im in my 20s yet feel 100. i had a herniated l4 l5 that i never got surgery on and i was managing pretty ok with it. anyway, last september i was doing leg extensions and my quad had a strong contraction, and ever since then it's been atrophied and now my other quad is as well. the ortho thinks i herniated my l2 or l3 disc and maybe screwed my femoral nerves up. has anyone heard of this? my quad literally has shrunk to nothing...it used to be insanely muscular. i have such weakness and now have knee issues.

i also had a question about emg testing. my neurologist is going to do an emg on the legs. since the cause is possibly from the spine, will an emg of legs show the damage or should i ask for a spine one? btw i got approved for a lumbar mri so im excited for that.

idk what's been going on with me lately, it seems my whole body is falling apart. i have thoracic or cervical(not sure how high?) pain as soon as i wake up. my thoracic/cervical is locked up out of bed. neck hurts too..of course i have lumbar pain too...and now this quad weakness...and also im having pec pain which idk if it's from lifting or from the back pain...but i have a weird pain where it feels like my lats and chest are connected....and the same injury lol..

anyway....im considering surgery to fix the lumbar issues because my leg weakness is bad now and i can barely walk. my life has turned to garbage.
what's weird is my leg was healing...but then it got worse again..i think it's because i tried squatting again. pt isnt helping either.

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it would be very helpful if you could provide us with more details. so many times we read about members who have different tests and they all come back negative. isolating spinal problems can almost be like the game of clue. the more clues and information you provide, the better chances in finding out what is wrong,
here are some questions that you should answer:
  • - when did this first start?- was it the result of an accident or trauma?- what doctors have you seen? (orthopedic, neurosurgeon, spine specialist, etc)- what conservative treatments have you had? which ones?- what diagnostic tests have you had? and their results (mri, ctscan, xray, emg, etc)- what medications are you currently using? (details, dosage, frequency, etc)- has surgery been discussed as an option? (if so, what kind)- is there any nerve pain/damage associated?- what is your doctor’s action plan for treating you?

providing answers to questions like this will give the member community here a better understanding
of your situation and make it easier to respond.

please take a look at our forum rules: forum rules

please remember that no one at spine-health is a formally trained medical professional.
everything that is posted here is based on personal experiences and perhaps additional research.
as such, no member is permitted to provide
  • - analysis or interpretation of any diagnostic test (ie mri, ctscan, xray, etc)- medical advice of any kind- recommendations in terms of medications, treatments, exercises, etc

what could be good for someone could spell disaster for another.
you should also consult your doctor to better understand your condition and the do’s and don’t’s.


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--- ron dilauro, spine-health system moderator : 02/08/15 21:09
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  • no replies...sgh
  • Honestly until you have an updated MRI its kind of hard to give advice. Did you get it scheduled? When you get the results, we have a better picture. I'm sorry, I have never had an ESI, so I cant give you advice there. Just hang in there, get the MRI, and we will see from there. Your doc is going to want to see an updated one anyways and will prob send you to a specialist.


    Retrolisthesis C4 of C5 and C5 of C6
    Spondylolthesis C5/C6
    Disc protrusions with Annular Tears C3/C4, C4/C5, and C5/C6
    Disc Material Compressing Spinal Cord C3/C4
    Severe Forminal Stenosis C5/C6
    DDD
    Ankylosing Spondylitis 
    Annular Tears L3/L4 and L5/S1
    Enlarged Facet Joints/Facet Anthrosis L3/L4/L5
    PLIF with Rods, Cage, and Pedicle Screws-L4/L5
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  • Jillybean079 said:
    Honestly until you have an updated MRI its kind of hard to give advice. Did you get it scheduled? When you get the results, we have a better picture. I'm sorry, I have never had an ESI, so I cant give you advice there. Just hang in there, get the MRI, and we will see from there. Your doc is going to want to see an updated one anyways and will prob send you to a specialist.
    im going for my mri in a few days, but im pretty sure it's an l2 issue..besides i still have the old herniations anyway. also as i said, ive been to specialists.
  • What kind of surgey did the neuro suggest so far? Laminectomy? Discectomy? I understand where youre coming from. I used to work on constantly, and now I cant even run on a treadmill. I just turned 36. I finally decided to have fusion surgery to fix my L4/L5 disk. We are hopeful that it will help with some of the pain, but my surgeon cannot guarantee anything considering my entire lumbar region is a disaster. I couldn't imagine the effect lifting weights would have on your back. The thing that would worry me is the muscle atrophy. I'm guessing your old MRI is a couple years old. This new one could have many more issues, so let us know what it reads. I'm sorry I couldn't help more. Basically this is the process, and its a long one unfortunately for many of us.


    Retrolisthesis C4 of C5 and C5 of C6
    Spondylolthesis C5/C6
    Disc protrusions with Annular Tears C3/C4, C4/C5, and C5/C6
    Disc Material Compressing Spinal Cord C3/C4
    Severe Forminal Stenosis C5/C6
    DDD
    Ankylosing Spondylitis 
    Annular Tears L3/L4 and L5/S1
    Enlarged Facet Joints/Facet Anthrosis L3/L4/L5
    PLIF with Rods, Cage, and Pedicle Screws-L4/L5
  • i havent seen a neurosurgeon, just a neurologist and an ortho surgeon. surgery hasn't been reccomended at this point as we are still diagnosing things. my main complaint was the leg weakness and the ortho said he thinks it's from an l2-l3 herniation so im getting the emg and mri from the neurologist and then seeing a neurosurgeon since the ortho isnt a spine dr.

    what's weird is my entire body is falling apart..every part hurts. im in my 20s too lol.
    i also had an mri of the quads which said there was no atrophy...but my quads look way smaller and less defined.
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  • Doug HellDoug Hell Posts: 332
    edited 02/11/2015 - 5:38 AM
    formerweightlifter said:


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    welcome to spine-health


    it would be very helpful if you could provide us with more details. so many times we read about members who have different tests and they all come back negative. isolating spinal problems can almost be like the game of clue. the more clues and information you provide, the better chances in finding out what is wrong,
    here are some questions that you should answer:

    - when did this first start?- was it the result of an accident or trauma?- what doctors have you seen? (orthopedic, neurosurgeon, spine specialist, etc)- what conservative treatments have you had? which ones?- what diagnostic tests have you had? and their results (mri, ctscan, xray, emg, etc)- what medications are you currently using? (details, dosage, frequency, etc)- has surgery been discussed as an option? (if so, what kind)- is there any nerve pain/damage associated?- what is your doctor’s action plan for treating you?

    providing answers to questions like this will give the member community here a better understanding
    of your situation and make it easier to respond.

    please take a look at our forum rules: forum rules

    please remember that no one at spine-health is a formally trained medical professional.
    everything that is posted here is based on personal experiences and perhaps additional research.
    as such, no member is permitted to provide

    - analysis or interpretation of any diagnostic test (ie mri, ctscan, xray, etc)- medical advice of any kind- recommendations in terms of medications, treatments, exercises, etc

    what could be good for someone could spell disaster for another.
    you should also consult your doctor to better understand your condition and the do’s and don’t’s.


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    --- ron dilauro, spine-health system moderator : 02/08/15 21:09
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  • I have had 2 ESI's done and they will help tell which nerve is causing the problem. My MRI showed issues at L1-L2 but the doctor did not believe that was the problem until the nerve test confirmed that is where one of the problems is.

    Good luck with your tests and let us know what the results are. Waiting for them can be painful.
    2004 - 2005 - 3 surgeries in 18 months to fix/fuse C6-C7.
    Nov 2013 - Laminectomy from L3 to S1
    Nov 2014 - Micro Discectomy L4 L5.
  • i had an mri done that showed an annular disc bulge on l5-s1 and it didnt show in the mri that its compressing nerves, but ive had a swollen left foot for 3 months and 3 days with extreme nerve pain... im having a nerve study done soon so im hoping that will narrow it down. does anyone else have any idea if nerve blockage can lead to swelling???
  • hey i was wondering, does getting spine surgery cause loss in height? im worried about getting shorter due to fixing my herniated discs...and please no answers like ''a few inches less height is worth years of no pain'' lol.
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