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does anyone know what type arthritis makes your knuckles larger?

karenckkarenc Posts: 104
edited 06/11/2012 - 7:20 AM in Arthritis, Osteoarthritis
does anyone know what type arthritis makes your knuckles larger? the knuckles in my hands are getting huge and i used to have very small hands. my pinky used to be a size 4 and ring finger on both hands a size 5 - 5 1/2. that's no longer true and my index finger and thumb knuckles are just huge now. my husband had a ring size 10 that used to just overpower any and all of my fingers but now i can barely get in on my right thumb and it is slightly looser on my left. i am right handed of course and i have the most trouble from my right thumb, index and middle fingers and between the right and left hands, the right is always the most swollen but both stay swollen. i just wondered if anyone has this problem. please let me know if so or if anyone has any ideas!

thanks to all!



  • thanks!

    does this also effect your spine too? i have RA but they say RA doesnt effect your spine but something is causing degeneration in my spine as well as all my joints except for my elbows. i will give those sights a look at!

    thanks so much!

  • MetalneckMetalneck The Island of Misfit toysPosts: 1,786
    Rheumatoid arthritis is well know to cause enlargement and dearrangement of the joints in the hands.

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  • ok so is it possible to have both RA and OA at the same time? both runs in my family plus AS, fibromyalgia and polymyagia rheumatica. yeah we have quite the alphabet going on! lol
  • AWWW!

    thank you so much Paul for your kind heartedness! I am so sorry that you have been thru so much also. I went to my pain dr, pt and psychologist yesterday (yeah all 3 in one day and boy they really worked me over!). they did confirm that my knuckles were getting larger and were experiencing some deformity because of the RA. i also found out i am having SI joint problems and have to have an injection on aug 13th. kind of scared about that but hoping it helps the pain. they said that they have to do 2 of them and then when necessary do something called radio frequency (i think) and if that doesnt work then they are sending me to an orthopedic dr. and they are sending me to a new RA dr. they also said that along with all this and my RA, DDD, and DJD i am having something called myofacial pain. not sure exactly what that is so i need to look that up. i know that's a lot to deal with but i am looking at this like, "ok yeah i have all this BUT at least now someone is really listening to me AND they are really trying to help me for the first time in years!!" so when i look at it like that then it doesnt seem so bad. my psychologist helps me with my pain and also stuff like stress (stress from like work, life- everythign from my mom's death to current issues like dealing with hubby and kids and even dealing with the stress of having a disabled child, and everything that lies in between. i have only been like 2-3 times and i really like it. she makes me think about things in different ways and helps me thru situations that somehow seem huge at the time but after she is done they seem so small. i think i needed this kind of therapy more than i thought. anyway thanks again so very much and i hope that you have a great day! also can you tell me how to PM? not sure just how you do that yet but i would love to be able to talk to you and others more. if you can let me know that would be great!

    have a happy and hopefully painfree day!

  • I am so sorry to hear you are having so many problems. That is certainly a lot to deal with at one time! I can sympathize with you as I have many arthritis related problems, as well as spinal problems.

    My hand arthritis is almost exactly as you described. And as far as my own experience, you can have both RA and OA, and both can also affect the hands. I have the knuckle damage you described, mostly on my index and middle fingers of both hands. (These are not particularly painful.) Most of my hand pain comes from the two thumb joints. Both hands are affected, but my right is worse. Periodically, my hands would swell, especially at night. In the morning, my fingers would be very red, swollen, stiff and painful. Now that the Rheumy dr has me on pednisone and Celebrex, this is much better. Now I have hardly any pain in my hands.

    There are a few things you can do to help the hand pain. One thing I did was buy the arthritis gloves, they are for compression. (I ordered them from Amazon.) And I wore them at night to keep the swelling down. Mine have the finger tips out, but it is still hard to do much with them on. But just wearing to bed helped. Also the hot parafin wax dips helped a little, like you get with a manicure. (I bought a set to do it at home.) It is very soothing, and although the heat doesn't last long, your hands will be very soft!

    Good luck with your spinal injection on the 13th. I hope you get some relief from that. Also I hope that your new Rheumy gets to the bottom of things and helps you with your hand pain, etc. My Rheumy has helped me so much, and I hope yours is as good as my dr. She spent so much time with me and is really agressive in treating the RA. In just 6 months my blood work is almost normal and my pain has leveled out to where it's bearable.

    I will send you a PM. If you have that figured out, you can PM me back, or post an update. But either way, please keep me posted as to how you make out. Hang in there, girl! Hugs and paryers, Marti
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  • Marti,
    Thanks for the PM and everything else! I tried to reply to the PM you sent me but it said that you dont except replies. Maybe you have something blocked? Anyway, I hope you are doing ok today. I am finally walking without a limp today. My hip had been out of commission for about a week. Its still sore but I can handle it. If you ever need anything just let me know! Hope this gets to back to you! Talk to you soon I hope!

  • Karen, So sorry. I didn't realize that there was a setting to allow the PM's. (I will blame it on the pain + the drugs, lol.) See how fast you're catching on! I think I fixed it, by editing my account. Try it again, this time it should work. I am glad to hear that you are doing better!

  • Sorry to come in late on this but I have an observation as well as a few questions, and you chaps seem to be the ones to ask!!!!

    The swelling of joints in arthritis, inclusing the knuckles, is caused by the laying down of bone material additional to the joint structure by the white blood cells as they attck the joints of the body.

    My girlfriend has suffered from Arthritis since she was in her mid 20s she is now mid 40s. She has had both her knees replaced. She too suffers with damaged knuckles and elbows and also a degree of damage to her ankles and feet joints.

    My question though is regarding foot reflexes - Babinski refex - she has absolutely no reflex at all in one foot and minimal reflex in the other. Initial information suggested this could be cause by spinal damage - a previous writer suggests Arthritis does not affect the spine, I am uncertain about this! - has anyone further information?

    1 could the knee replacement have damaged the foot refex?
    2 could fusion in the spine, perhaps caused by arthritis, dampen the reflex?

    and finally, on another point raised here about Physical excercise and joint manipulation - does manipulation and non-impact excercise reduce joint fusion, including spine fusion?

    Enough to chat about here perhaps!!

  • Hi Stephen,

    I have RA and all I can tell you is that I have it in my hands and feet. I have NO reflexs in either of my ankles but I have hyper reflexes in both my knees. I havent had any surgeries regarding my arthritis yet but i had an SI injection on 8/13 which has helped my right hip tremendously. I have always heard that RA doesnt affect the spine but OA does. I have to see a new RA dr on 11/13 and I am thinking that she will confirm the DDD and DJD and myofacial pain syndrome that my pain clinic dr and PT have diagnosed me with. I know from where I had my SI injection my pain clinic dr said that she has never seen so much arthritis in a SI joint and especially in one at my age (36), so if there is arthritis in there it leads me to believe I either do have OA in my spine OR i could possibly have AS like my cousin and 2 other family members as well. I feel like if i cant get this under control i know that surgery(s) are in my future for sure. So, I dont now if I answered ANY of your questions at all or not but all i can tell you is what i go thru. if you have any more questions please feel free to ask here or even PM me, ok?

    have a great day!

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