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Medical marijuana, experiences?

I have found good pain relief and help with sleeping with eatables. I live in Colorado so I have access to medical marijuana. Has anyone else had any experiences with using this method for pain control versus opiods? In my opinion, it is safer to utilize this rather than pain killers.



  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 9,848
    Just do a search on Medical Marijuana and you will find dozens of references. There have been so many threads about this.

    Unfortunately, every one of those threads eventually was shut down , because it became a battleground. There were so many for and just as many as against. And that is NOT what our forums should be focusing in on.

    My gut tells me to lock this thread up and just have you search all the other articles. But I am going to keep this open for a while. As long as follow on posts are productive and not a good and evil witch hunt it can stay open. However, if it
    goes the route of so many of the other threads dealing with this subject, I will lock it down.
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • charlie6017charlie6017 Posts: 412
    edited 03/29/2013 - 10:14 AM
    I will admit that I have never so much as tried marijuana in my almost 42 years. Living in New York State, we don't have access to it. I am not yet educated on medical marijuana, but if it is used as an edible medicine, how much different can it be to other oral narcotics used to help ease the pain?

    If it were legalized for medical purposes in NY, I would likely want to try it......not smoking it, but orally.

  • It's worth a shot. If you can get a card, it is worth trying. The damage that so many of the so-called "approved" medical drugs cause to the liver, cause depression, build a threshold where you have to take more and more for relief - talk about "gateway drugs - sheesh!

    I know people get relief from them and marijuana - medical or otherwise - has a bad rap to those who see it as demonic - can offer relief without the damaging side effects.

    I would suggest trying it out - and trying it out slowly. In other words - take one or two hits - and then wait - and see how that particular type of medical marijuana impacts you. If it's mild in quality, it may be just enough to help. Or, you might need another hit or two.

    Like medications, you want to be wise and not drive after smoking some and I would caution against baking with it until you have an idea as to whether it helps or not. Baking with it gives you less control of how to monitor your reactions, while smoking it will give you more control. (Have some water near you in case you are not used to inhaling the first few times.) :)

    Even my father - definitely not pro marijuana - finally succumbed to trying medical marijuana for his Phantom Limb Pain (after his arm was amputated because of a rare tumor) when nothing else helped. It took him decades to finally try it - and he did get relief from it. He is still not thrilled at using it, but the damage he knew the pain medications were causing his body long term with no results was enough to finally get him to the point of trying.

    Good luck to you.

    10/26/2012 ACDF C3/4 C4/5 surgery
    No pain; no pain meds - thank goodness!
    04/01/2013 - 5 months + 1 week - FUSED
    Doing some physical therapy for even better range of motion
  • pandqmamappandqmama Posts: 175
    edited 03/31/2013 - 5:02 AM
    I think there already is an oral medication out there based from marijuana -meredol maybe.

    I have never tried marijuana since my pain began (ten years ago) but would be interested to see if it helps for my pain (fbss and nerve). I am awaiting a spinal cord stimulator and wearing a 100mcg fentynal patch and 15mg morphine for break through pain. obviously my pain is not under control now, so I would give marijuana a try. I don't think even if legal in my state I could because my work has drug screening and I would think that the federal law would keep my fortune 50 company the ability to drug screen.

    I think this is a very private decision, if you want to try it - go for it.
  • I asked my PM about it and he was all for it, BUT....He said because of the legal problem he made the comment, Only thing you could go to jail.
  • scinmyheartsscinmyheart Posts: 76
    edited 03/31/2013 - 3:04 PM
    If you are in a pain management program, I think the problem is finding a clinic that does not have an issue with using marijuana in conjunction with opiates, especially if you are not in a medical state. I would think even those doctors will have an issue unless you are really lucky. Too bad as I think they can be used together. But in my situation, I don't think that I would be able to stop all pills even while being able to smoke...and no, both together is not going to kill you

    With my clinic, I will get kicked out if testing positive for it, even while testing okay with my Rx levels and pill counts...proving that I am not diverting my pills for marijuana...it would be an addition...they should test your levels to make sure they line up with what you are prescribed...count my pills...test for coke and meth...but no needvto test for marijuana if everything else falls into place...it's just a bunch of horse$$$$

    In NCcrazys case, I'm wondering what that dr actually meant with his comment...I am guessing that NCcrazys is in a non medical state, so the dr is not telling him/her anything new about the possibility of going to jail (and that depends upon the state and certain circumstances)...if that is the case and he is TRULY okay with it, then the risk of jail should be on him and no skin off the doctor's nose
  • I am fortunate to be in Colorado- where medical marijuna is legal, and to have a friend who is an expert in the various forms of medical marijuana, so I was able to chose what varietal works for my medical issues.

    I use it primarily to help me sleep and for some pain management.

    I do find it very interesting that this is still such a controversial topic and hope we can keep the post open, and not get into conflicting opinions about the right or wrong of it- that is really up to the individual- I believe and you can and should use your voting right in your state to make your opinion known.

    My goal in posting this was not to see if people should be able to use it,- candidly I would not use it if it were not legal in Colorado, but as a way of discussing it as an option for pain/ sleep issues, if you live in a state where it is legal. To explore it as it as an option versus the heavy duty opiods.

    My pain management doctors have given me very few options, Vicodin is pretty much it- and I am really nervous about being on this drug long term. I also hate the spacey feeling out of touch feeling it gives me.

    Eatables, by the way, are really usually strong- and labelled with their potency, so I advise you consult with good knowledgeable center staff person first,( if you are in a state where you can get eatables legally) and take very small doses of it. It is concentrated, not like smoking a joint!

  • I'm curious to hear from someone in one of the approved medical marijuana states that is also a pain patient, what I'm curios about is if the pain clinics are using it. I am 100% for medical marijuana, however it needs regulation, this industry right now is the same as the pill mills in Florida was 5 years ago. Also it needs more medical intervention, right now in many states you have an ex hardcore stoner selling "medicine" in a closed down Dairy Queen, because he says he cares about people in pain. To be taken seriously by people the industry needs a major facelift.
    Microdiscectomy/Laminectomy/Foraminalectoy L4/L5/S1 Oct 2009, Mar 2012
    Laminectomy L4/L5/S1 Dec 2009, Oct 2012, Dec 2012
    Microdiscectomy and Synovial Cyst removal Feb 2013
    St Jude Spinal Cord Stimulator implanted January 2014

  • My pain contract specifically states that use of marijuana, even with a card, will void the contract. MT has been a medical marijuana state, but the upcoming legislation will put a huge damper on the use and of who can be a caregiver. I have never partaken, FYI, just a response.
  • It is legal in my state w/ a card from an MD. I have tried it for my pain in the past just to see and it did not help me w/ my pain. It DID allow me to finally sleep w/o problems. I only used it for a week just to see and then I stopped, I musta had the good stuff b/c I could not function. LOL.
    I do know several people use it for pain and it works for them.
    Every person is different and should be up to the individual I think. If it works for someone then why not.
  • I live in Colorado and have just started to use eatables. My pain management doctor won't touch the issue.

    Heck, doctors seem incredibly nervous about prescribing anything at this point, from a medication standpoint- there seems to be increased liability with all the pain med hysteria out there. I asked for a renewal for Cymbalta, not a pain med, but is used for neuropathic pain in my case, and my pain management doctor wanted me to come in for an opiod screen before he would renew it.

    Given I am incredibly anti opiod when ever possible, it made me laugh.

  • Hi Wendy,

    Amazing. Have you seen some benefit from the eatables; is it helping with the pain? I found out that legislation is "in the works" for approval in NY State, where I live. We'll see!

  • quicksilverqquicksilver Posts: 126
    edited 05/21/2013 - 7:49 AM
    But I can tell you that here in MI I can obtain medibles with a state issued MMJ card. I find that medibles do provide some relief. It takes the sharp edges off of some of my lower back spasms. It definitely elevates my mood as life in pain is otherwise quite grim. If nothing else, I can usually ignore the pain as I try to keep active. Keeping active is not anywhere near an easy thing for me these days.

    MMJ keeps me going, and I like the stuff. That doesn't mean that I necessarily like staying medicated all the time. I'm not good with that; I'm far less good with the alternative of no MMJ. You have to decide for yourself whether the trade-off is worth the trouble and risks. I'm familiar with the stuff and for now I'll use it. I will drop the stuff in a flash if I can ever find something better to control my pain issues.

    Just my 2¢

    Disability retirement
  • When I use it I use the edibles. Much better for me than smoking. It works better and I don't get the "high" off it. I know how much of what strand and how much I can eat. It works for me. I don't use it all the time only because I live on the boarder of Washington and Idaho. Washington it's legal and Idaho it isn't. I have some Idaho doctors soooo. That's why. I have all different kinds of pain issues and the MJ works on some and not on the others. It does help me sleep so I don't have to take my meds for sleep all the time. Which is nice. The more CBD's (what helps the pain) the better it is for me. Now if I could just get the CBD's without so much of the THC that would be nice. The THC does help people in pain too. They have so many different strains out there. Some work for folks who have Migraines where others will help more with spasams. Topical helps some people with muscle pain.
  • I find the experiences of others very interesting. I have never tried it and it is illegal in my state. I would absolutely consider it and try it as a form of pain treatment or even help sleeping if my pain management team approved and it was legal here. I have friends who use it illegally and have said they could provide some for me to try on those horrible days. However, I won't take the risk. Smoking anything is also not anything I am comfortable with. I have a really bad luck streak that is a mile wide and the one time I try it would be the time the pain clinic decides to run a drug test, or I would be in a car accident, or any other million things that go wrong in life. (I am not saying I would ever drive under the influence.) The way I figure is with all of the chemically derived medications chronic pain patients take and have side effects from, medical marijuana may be a suitable alternative for some patients. I really want to hear from more patients who have tried it for their chronic pain and how it did or did not help. The legislation is being debated in my state and I don't know if or when it will go through, but options are a great thing to have. Honestly, it may be an easier alternative than some of the other medications used for chronic pain or in conjunction with medications.
    DDD & spinal stenosis L4-S1 since 2001
    30+ injections, PT, massage therapy, accupuncture, TENS unit, meds, etc but no surgical intervention
    I am not a surgical candidate
  • Thanks everyone for the great feedback.......truly appreciated! :-)

  • We live in an illegal state and when my mom was suffering end stage lung cancer and the medications did not work anymore. My brother who was a recreational user brought her some and even though I was not happy to have in my home I could not tell them no. I could not believe the diference it made in her quality of life at the end. Between her Morphine and the MJ she was so much more comfortable and would actually eat a little once in awhile

    I tried MJ when I was young and did not care for. Made me feel out of control but now that I am suffering from chronic pain for past 20 yrs. on and off I would definetely give it a chance if it were legal. Even though I dont have a PM and no contract I would not do that to my GP who has prescribed my meds for me the past 5 yrs. I hope it works for you Coyotewildwoman and gives you some relief. Lord knows we all could use some of that :)


  • cannabis .as in the uk its strictly restricted to a very privileged {if that's the correct word} few .yes I have ..in desperate times ..taken street cannabis and it removes ALL my pain and helps me sleep ..I wish it was legal .at the moment I am looking for a specialist pain clinic where sativax is on trial .because that's the only way I could get medical cannabis ..in a specialist centre and on a trail basis...
    I don't know why the uk has such a hang up about this drug .its cheap less side effects and it works ..when I have had it this is what happens ..first the pain goes warm then it tingles then is goes for up to 8 hours .I think if I could get medical cannabis I would be able to enjoy rather then endure life
    1997 laminectomy
    2007 repeat laminectomy and discectomy L4/L5
    2011 ALIF {L4/L5/S1}
    2012 ? bowel problems .still under investigation
    2014 bladder operation may 19th 2014
  • hay tony
    doesn't the uk still more or less legalize heroin? i know one used to have to get a prescription from a doctor to get it. is that so? and if it is, why are they so strict with pot and not heroin? it does not make sense. have they made it harder to get heroin than before? i always thought it should be aviable in the united states. if morphine is used why not heroin which is a stronger pain killer. i know the idiots in the us say it is more addictive and has more abuse than morphine but if controlled then in my opinion it should be aviable to at least terminal cancer patients. i know the last head of the police in my city advocated the legialization of heroin. it would take away from the mob and also it could be taxed so we could get more money. it could be strictly controlled and require a visit every month to a pain doctor with a legal contract not the quazi legal contracts pain doctors have us signed.
    take care tony
    I have 4 fusions from L5-3, the latest last May '12 where they fixed my disc that broke.They went through my side this time. I take 40 mg of oxycontin 4x a day and 4 fenatyl lollipops 300 micro gms 4x a day.
  • Hi Charm! :-)

    You go to a MMJ doctor and get a certificate that's good for a year.

  • Jon, diamorphine (heroin) is available for doctors to prescribe for severe pain in the UK - it isn't legalised in the sense that anyone can get it. It's preferred by some doctors as it is faster acting and more easily soluble - smaller amounts are needed, making it easier to tolerate for some patients. It is about 2-3 times as strong as morphine, I believe (mg for mg).

    I was given it (in the form of an epidural) for immediate post-operative pain control (first 48 hours) following my laminectomy in the UK back in '95. I found it worked well for pain, and I was given an additional 'bolus' (extra dose for 'breakthrough' type pain) whenever I needed one. I could feel it working very quickly.
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