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Do you get your sacroiliac joint adjusted?

crashdummieccrashdummie Posts: 38
edited 06/11/2012 - 7:45 AM in Lower Back Pain
is there anyone here that gets their SI joint adjusted? If so, how does your chiro or therapist do it? I'm told I have a rotated right ilium. I can't seem to find anyone who can properly realign my SI joints. All the chiro's I see want to do that classic SI manipulation, where they pop you on your side with you like a pretzel. I think this is more harm then good to an already stretched, misaligned joint.

I'm hoping to secure my SI joint by having someone properly adjust it and then hit the long and short SI ligs with prolotherapy. Anyone dealign with this kind of stuff?

Thanks
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  • Yes me. If your ligaments are stretched then your ligaments will not keep your SI joint in place.
    It's not worth looking for a Chiro or anyone else to get the SI right, just get the Prolo done and your ligaments will strengthen and hold your SI in place.

    I went through this and learned the hard way with 10+ years of getting adjusted. The SI would usually stay in place for a while and then go out and I would need another trip to the Chiro. Huge waste of time and money.

    Find a Prolo Doc who will give you about 50 injections (not including the numbing shots) and who has done prolo on backs many times.
    Don't get a Doc who only does a few shots, it's not enough.

    I had my third Prolo procedure done Friday. My SI joint felt like it was greased up after the first prolo session. My lumbar is solid, no more pops and noises out of it. My leg pain decreased greatly too.

    Let us know how you do. If you need more info post back.

  • I dont get it adjusted, I actually have injections into the joints via epidural catheter and then the nerve endings burnt.
    It relieves the pain anywhere from 3 to 9 months..
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  • Ozone,

    Your results sound fantastic, alot better then most i think. I think the thing with prolotherapy is, it works for some and not others, although this is information I've read off forums. Don't you wish you would have skipped all the wasted years and maybe you'd be at 100% now instead of 70% or better now? I wonder if all those chiro manipulations made your SI more unstable?

    According to (name removed), a SI joint specialist, those chiro SI manipulations are death to an anteriorly rotated pelvis. Have you heard of (name removed) before?

    I see my prolotherapy doctor tomorrow, an actual MD not ND. It took 2 months to get in with him, his experience with prolotherapy is exellent. What kind of questions should I ask him tomorrow? If you could tell me that one Ozone I'd greatly be appreciative. Because I know there are different solutions of prolo.

    Yea, I get the little pops out of the SI area, when standing up or sitting down, expecially when I would squeeze my glute muscles. I think if everyone listened and did exactly what chiro's told them, then the world would be full of hurt, poor people:()

    Name of medical professional removed. Please contact member via PM for name or information pertaining to this professional Post edited by Moderator haglandc
  • That sounds pretty good shelly, are you happy with that? Did you ever try prolotherapy?
  • crashdummie said:
    Ozone,

    Your results sound fantastic, alot better then most i think. I think the thing with prolotherapy is, it works for some and not others, although this is information I've read off forums. Don't you wish you would have skipped all the wasted years and maybe you'd be at 100% now instead of 70% or better now? I wonder if all those chiro manipulations made your SI more unstable?

    According to (name removed), a SI joint specialist, those chiro SI manipulations are death to an anteriorly rotated pelvis. Have you heard of (name removed) before?

    I see my prolotherapy doctor tomorrow, an actual MD not ND. It took 2 months to get in with him, his experience with prolotherapy is exellent. What kind of questions should I ask him tomorrow? If you could tell me that one Ozone I'd greatly be appreciative. Because I know there are different solutions of prolo.

    Yea, I get the little pops out of the SI area, when standing up or sitting down, expecially when I would squeeze my glute muscles. I think if everyone listened and did exactly what chiro's told them, then the world would be full of hurt, poor people:()

    Name of medical professional removed. Please contact member via PM for name or information pertaining to this professional Post edited by Moderator haglandc
    Prolo works on 85% + for back pain providing that the Prolo Doc is skilled,the patient has a healthy immune system and ligaments are the problem.
    I doubt the adjustments worsened my condition.

    Questions for your Doc.
    1)How many Prolo injections (not counting numbing injections) do you give?
    2)How many lumbar prolo procedures have you done?
    3)Where were you educated about prolo?
    4)How many prolo sessions will I need?
    5) how much does each session cost?

    Answers.
    1) about 50. A few injections will not do
    2) the more the better
    3) There's a university in Wisconsin that teaches prolo. Other's are trained offshore.
    4) This varies, but 4 to 6 are normal.
    5) This of course varies. I doubt that I would pay more than $500.

    **Yea, I get the little pops out of the SI area, when standing up or sitting down, expecially when I would squeeze my glute muscles.**
    A big indication that your SI will benefit from Prolo.

    ** I think if everyone listened and did exactly what chiro's told them, then the world would be full of hurt, poor people:()**
    My opinions on Chiros are mixed. I've come across people who needed to be adjusted once in a while to get rid of their sciatica pain. I think that's good.
    Adjustments did help free up my SI over the years but it's a temporary fix. That's not the best solution. Prolo is a permanent solution.

    The choice of the prolo solution varies but the Ongley Solution is the norm. Although my doc does not use that exact solution, he uses the typical dextrose based solution. Don't get to nutty about the solution used if your doc has experience let him use what he is experienced in using.

    Good luck.
    Post back, I'd like to know how your prolo experience goes.

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  • Hey Crash,

    I hope the prolo works for you...I've been down the SI joint treatment road and finally had to have mine surgically stabilized.

    As far as getting it adjusted, I would recommend finding a physical therapist with some sort of manual therapy certification or possibly a McKenzie therapist. I saw a McKenzie therapist who was *wonderful* at gently rocking my sacrum back into alignment. She would put me on my side, stabilize my sacrum with one arm, and then sort of use her body weight to gently rock the ilium to get the SI joint to slide back into place (hard to describe, but nothing like high velocity chiropractor adjustments. There is no popping, just a gentle mobilization that makes the ilium rotate to realign the joint. Like you, I had a rotated ilium). Once in place I'd strap on my SI belt do all sorts of exercises to try to build the muscles up to hold it.

    I also had a short detour into chiropractics and after a few sessions could tell it was just making the SI joint even looser, so I know where you're coming from.

    As far as prolo, my NS talked to me about it before my surgery but by that point my pelvis had become so unstable it wasn't an option- I was an extreme case though because I fractured my sacrum which contributed significantly to my SI joint decline. I'm a bit of a skeptic, but don't really have much basis for an opinion on prolotherapy.

  • Hey Ozone prolo buddy:)

    Yea this guy wants to do the whole area, everything it sounds like. All the ligs around the sacrum and even along the pelvis where the glutes attach, maybe even attachments at the hip.

    My only concern is locking the SI joint in the uncorrect position. So I'm thinking I should prolo just the long and short ligs of the SI and then once i know the SI is fully tight in the right position, then do the rest of the outer ligs. Have you heard of any situations like this before?

    It's gonna cost me $250 a round, He said it shouldn't be no more then 4 rounds since I am in better good shape. He also said my SI are not the problem because they are very stable and not producing pain. He determined this from his SI stress tests.

  • Thank you Lala,

    That kindov SI adjustment sounds very good. I wish I could find a therapist like that. Thanks for the tip.
  • That sounds good, give it a try, I noticed a big change fours day after my first prolo. Your concern about the incorrect positioning of the SI joint are wrong. It will find its own correct position don't worry about that.

    My doctor gave me a SI stress test and said I didn't have a problem there also. I didn't think anything of it because I knew I was getting a lot of pain and
    popping noises in the SI area and that can only be from ligament problems. was right because the pain and noises were gone after the first few days and have not come back.

    When are you going to have this done?
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