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Laser Disc Decompression for Spinal Stenosis: Does it Work?

As a practicing spine surgeon, I am often asked by patients if their disc decompression surgery can be done with a laser. There is a perception by the general population that lasers are a modern, almost futuristic, up and coming technology. The reality is that lasers have been around for a long time and are almost completely useless when it comes to spine surgery.

A laser is a focused beam of light that can be used for cutting soft tissue. In eye surgery, they are definitely useful and have changed corrective eye procedures drastically. In the spine, electrocautery is much more practical for cutting soft tissue. Lasers can cut disc tissue, but it is far easier and more reliable to mechanically grab the disc fragment and remove it from compressing the nerve. Also, since discs lie right next to the nerve root, one risks the chance of damaging the nerve root with the laser. Lasers cannot cut bone so they cannot be used to decompress patients with spinal stenosis.

It seems to me that the most practical use for lasers in spine surgery is for marketing. Like most businesses, spine surgery is very competitive, and having an edge in marketing can make a practice standout. I knew a spine surgeon who would tell his patients he could use a laser to do their surgery. He would cut the skin with a scalpel, then bring in a laser to cut the subcutaneous fat, then go back to electrocautery. However, since the laser was so slow, he would only use it for about thirty seconds before he went back to electrocautery. The laser performed no useful function during the surgery, but helped him for marketing purposes.

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Spine-health.com has thousands of pages of information, all of which have been peer reviewed by a medical advisory board of prominent spine physicians. However, there is not one article on laser surgery as it is not an accepted spine procedure. At the major spine meetings and in the major spine journals there is a paucity of (if any) peer reviewed articles documenting any use of lasers in spine surgery.

So, if mainstream spine surgery is not interested in lasers, and lasers are primarily only useful as a good marketing tool, why do patients remain so interested in lasers? Perception plays a central role, and many patients perceive lasers to be a useful technology. Lasers are often perceived as an effective surgical approach for spine surgery because of two reasons: placebo response, and the tendency to always think the second opinion sounds more knowledgeable.

Placebo response: Patients with pain want to get better, and if they undergo an invasive procedure, they will try to get better if at all possible. The placebo response in patients with chronic pain can be as high as 70%, even if the procedure was a complete sham and did not address their spine pathology. However, in patients with true pathology the response doesn’t last very long. I recently operated on an elderly woman who had a degenerative spondylolisthesis and severe lumbar spinal stenosis. She had initially seen a local surgeon who had recommended a posterior decompression, instrumentation and fusion (which is what she needed for correction of her condition). She went to a center that claimed a laser surgery would suffice. After the laser surgery, she felt better for a couple of weeks, but then realized her pain was about the same. This is the placebo response. When I saw her and offered her the surgery she should have had in the first place, the reason the laser surgery had failed became apparent. I could see that none of the bone around the nerve roots had been removed, as would be expected since a laser surgery would have limited exposure and limited ability to deal with the anatomic problem causing the pain.

We did perform the surgery that was needed and she has subsequently done very well, as would be expected since this is a reliable surgery. The previous laser surgery had been touted as a minimally invasive surgery, which is its main benefit, but the drawback is that it does not address the pathology of lumbar spinal stenosis – the laser surgery does not remove the bone that is pressing against the nerve root and causing the pain. Unfortunately, since her laser surgery was not covered by insurance, the patient was out the cash.

Second opinion. The other factor that allows lasers to be marketed for spine surgery is that almost any second opinion for surgery has a tendency to sound smarter than the first opinion. The above patient had seen another surgeon prior to going to having laser surgery, and the first surgeon had recommended the appropriate surgery for her condition (decompression, instrumentation and fusion). The surgeon who wanted to use the laser, however, probably sounded smarter since he gave the second opinion. I have frequently heard that nobody should have a spine surgery unless they get a second opinion. The danger is that the next opinion a patient obtains may or may not be any smarter that the first opinion, and it may be based more on marketing than on any sound medical science. This is not to say that patients shouldn’t get second opinions – I am very much in favor of the patient having as much information as possible prior to deciding on surgery. Just be aware of the natural tendency for the second opinion to sound better.

Posted by: Peter Ullrich, MD

Subject: How long (generally) is the

How long (generally) is the recovery period from a bruised nerve (not pinched nerve) that happened during a laminectomy

Subject: From a 75 yrold elder with a

From a 75 yrold elder with a 95 yrold spine--ddd, spondy,stenosis,scoliosis,etc. I had laser laminectomy/discectomy at several levels in 1994. Pain relief was immediate and persisted for 4 years until ddd did me in again. If my heart could take it I would do it again!!

Subject: ok, so since you the experts

ok, so since you the experts don't agree on these procedures, what about the dynesis fixation product, I liked to hear your feedback as I am due to have laminectomy l-4-5

Subject: I utulize the Non surgical

I utulize the Non surgical Spinal decompression technique in my Manhattan practice and see amazing results. If i have a patient that requires surgery i usually refer out to a MD that does laser decompression.

Subject: "However, there is not one

"However, there is not one article on laser surgery as it is not an accepted spine procedure." Why not accepted? Not accepted by whom? Yes, it is concerning that the laser spine facilities have not published any of their techniques, nor outcomes of their surgery. That does bother me. I am puzzled by your statement that lasers cannot cut bone. I know back in the '80s when I had arthroscopic knee surgery, my surgeon did destroy some cartilage fragments that were in my knee. Yes, cartilage and bone may be different, but lasers can cut through steel, so I don't understand why they can't be used to cut bone. Yes, the placebo effect is real, I don't deny that. However, 70%, is hard to believe. Would you be so kind as to give me the reference to that publication. Thank you. Doctor Ullrich, your response please.

Subject: Working for an FDA regulated

Working for an FDA regulated company myself, I can say with a high degree of certainty that, if laser surgery was nothing more than a marketing tactic, the Food and Drug Administration would have closed down all places that specialize in it long ago. Many people who have traditional fusion surgery that fails are helped by these places when all other doctors give up. Perhaps you should take the time to meet with leaders in this field and spend time learning about their approach, that may help you develop a better understanding.

Subject: You are doing an injustice

You are doing an injustice to those who will benifite from this type of surgery.I had laser surgery when no other surgeon could offer any option for my pain and I am now pain free.It all comes down to the techneque used and you can not lump all types together.In the wrong hands even a scaple is dangerous

Subject: I would invite everyone to a

I would invite everyone to a thread titled "Laser Spine Surgery" at EHealth. Go to http://ehealthforum.com/health/viewtopic/php?p=643035#643035 Sure, we are trying to learn about laser spine surgery, however, we also want to learn and help others regarding other options for back pain.

Subject: Richard, the web address is

Richard, the web address is not working for Laser Spine Surgery.

Subject: Yet fusion is widley

Yet fusion is widley accepted and how many of those surgerys are failures.The studies are very expensive and if a company does not pay for it who will.With laser surgery threre is no rods or plates so no company is making anything off of it.As long as patient care is a money driven industry the companys will always put money first and patients last.

Subject: My father had his neck fused

My father had his neck fused in the 70's. The place where they took the bone from his hip to replace the structure in his neck became arthritic about ten years later, to the point he had to retire (he had an active job). So, to say one is better than the other depends on what other area becomes affected by the procedure.

Subject: Do you think laser surgery

Do you think laser surgery would be effective for removal of that part of several discs and the ligamentum flavum causing lumbar stenosis? It is certainly more conservative.

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found this article very interesting.

Subject: help

I HAVE GOT SPINAL STENOSIS AT AGE 40 I AM TO HAVE SURGERY NEXT WEEK DO I NEED TO GET A SECOND OPINION SINCE I AM ONLY 40 SOME PEOPLE TELL ME I NEED TO AND ALSO I HAD BACK SURGERY IN 2003 ATL4,L5,AND S,1 PLEASE HELP ANYONE

Subject: Laser Spine Surgery

I had Laser spine surgery at the Laser Spine Institute in Tampa last Thursday (7/24/08). I left Wisconsin in a wheelchair, not able to walk 25 feet without severe pain. I ame back from LSI on Sunday 7/27/08 pain free and walking at least an hour per day. My issue was at L5/S1. Thank God someone told me about LSI. Who ever said Lasers cannot cut through bone is totally incorrect. I was scheduled for traditional fusion surgery here on 8/11, and obviously have cancelled that! I saw many, many people down there that walked out pain free. Some of the folks had the surgery done years before and were there now to support a friend or family member having it done now. The people at LSI gave me my life back. I called 20-25 people that had it done at LSI before I went, and I could not fine one that wasn't totally satisfied. I recommend you check out www.laserspineinstitute.com

Subject: Laser Spine Surgery

I had laser surgery C6 C7 and it worked. No more pain and its been awhile since my surgery in Tampa. Please DO the exercises they tell you as it helps. Laser surgery DOES work and I am proof of that. I understand there is a 90 percent success rate with laser surgery. The info on this site needs to be updated. Thank you Dr St Louis and LSI.