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Marijuana now legal in Michigan?

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  • well, I suppose it's the first step for that state, right? Many (12) other states have already passed such legislation, totalling 13 now, and although I can only relate to CA, I know that here, it means that countless people who benefit from it's use no longer need to live in fear of arrest or jail time for posession or use, assuming they have the proper doctors recommendation etc..

    The way I see it, is that it's one more state closer to having all 50 states, and then, how could it possibly be illegal on a federal level if all states have legalized it? Baby steps towards personal freedom. We'll get there.
  • I think MM is a bit of a joke in some respects.....bearing in mind I was a rock 'n roll guitar player most of my life...'nuff said.....I still think it is ridiculous in that you can get a MM card here in So Cal for nothing, just tell your doc you are stressed out and you'll get a card...... I know people who are just stoners and have a card.

    Besides I don't see what weed does for pain really. I can see how it might help someone gain weight by getting the munchies...or drink more liquids because of cottonmouth :D .......but pain control? Not to mention it would suck to hit the bong and get a bad paranoia buzz right before surgery say....yikes...... imagine how many stoned back patients would be on the phone to their doc :-C ..." Dude, I 'm freaking out here bro'.....!!!" :))( 'll take opiates anyday for pain control over KGB from Humbolt County or some other variety of "The Kind".

    I would be willing to bet that a large percentage of MM users are just stoners finding a way to get legal weed.

    I could well be wrong.....just my opinion.
  • You made me laugh out loud and I really needed that!
  • Clearly you just took a toke on some medical weed and got the giggles! 8}

    Seriously though....the exception to what I said is cancer and other really heavy conditions, terminal illness and stuff.... I don't mean to make light of what those folks are enduring and if marijuana helps I am all for it.


    So yeah, it seems a good thing for those who really need an alternate form of relief from a serious condition.

    But it is being abused too. Kids are getting it for mild psychological issues and other dumb reasons, just to get high. That's lame. If they are gonna get baked at least they should have to go score and run the same risks of getting busted the rest of us had to. :D
  • Can you please post an example of a kid who has gotten it for a mild psychological issue, just to get high? You're entitled to your opinions, but all you posted were negative assumptions .
  • There's a reasonable amount of research going on surrounding the use of marijuana with autistic children who have violent tendencies, but I hardly consider that a mild psychological disorder.

    Personally, I don't consider medical marijuana to be any more of a threat to children than the many other non-controversial drugs currently prescribed to them. I'm routintely appalled by the fact that parents choose to medicate their children for behavior issues rather than making the effort to address the underlying issues directly.
  • JWM said:
    Can you please post an example of a kid who has gotten it for a mild psychological issue, just to get high? You're entitled to your opinions, but all you posted were negative assumptions .
    Wow, no need to get all twisted about it.....firstly you noted the humor in my posts....you also noticed how I said I could see the value for people with serious issues....you also noticed how I said I may be wrong and it was just my opinion.

    I know a few guys who have MM cards who have no real problems other than what they made up to get the card so they could get high legally.

    What about those kids in San Diego that wanted to be allowed to smoke medical weed while attending school? Give me a break! How liberal can we get?

    You surely don't think medical marijuana is not being abused...... please.

    Anyway, obviously you are very passionate about the topic and seem to be strongly for medical weed so I don't want to argue with you about it.

    Again...it was just my opinion....just as you had yours about which states allow it, how it relates to personal freedom etc I don't agree with you but I am not picking apart your statements....your are also entitled to your opinion.

    Bionic, I agree about rampant drug prescribing for kids without treating the underlying issues...... I am not so sure pot is the best choice either but that is just my own feeling.
  • The benifits of it could be argued for day on end personally being a young guy who has done my fair share of substances, medical or recreational doesn't matter if the goverment could find a way to tax it they would legallize it end of story, also in some of the states they passed a law that made under a certain amount "personal use" not a crime so that's a good step who needs to cause a kid problems when they go to college just because they got caught with a joint.
  • Yeah this can be a hot topic. Personally as an older cat :D who has been there and done that having been a musician all my life, I would not want my kids to do what I did. Hypocrite, maybe....I smoked cigs also and would hate for my girls to take up smoking.Cigs are great for stress....but look at the side effects.
  • do abuse the medical marijuana law. I know this guy that does for a fact and he is nothing more than an umemployed stoner taking advantage of the system in many ways. I don't care that he (or anyone else)smokes it but the fact he claims he needs it for 'medicinal reasons' is purely a joke. Now, I don't think majority of the people who use this law are stoners by any stretch of the imagination but THIS GUY is.
  • I really think it's a catch-22, with respect to side effects and safety issues. In order to determine the long-term side effects and safety issues, there has to be some consistency across quality and production, which really can't happen as long as it's illegal.
  • this is a fine subject, funny though, how in the thread supporting MM, ANYONE, who expressed any differing opinion, got the allmighty smackdown for a differing opinion...hmmm
    so...
    lets all keep thing in a tight perspective..
    BOTH SIDES HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS!
    and thats a humble opinion.
    so..
    remember spineys
    its our differences that make us strong K?
    William Garza
    Spine-Health Mod
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  • BionicWoman said:
    there has to be some consistency across quality and production, which really can't happen as long as it's illegal.
    Isn't the marijuana that is grown for medical use done so in a more controlled situation?

    I know a guy who smokes a ton of weed, he's a wake and bake dude .....he has a younger brother and they both have medical marijuana cards. Recently the one brothers card expired and he needed weed so they went down and used the other brothers card and bought more weed. Hello!

    Supposedly you can get all the popular kinds...... a smorgasbord of sensimilla.....yeah baby!!! B)

    Oh these two pothead brothers ...mom and dad smoke weed also, liberal household and all.....the family that tokes together.... :)
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    Edited by moderator paulgla. Reply was inappropriate.
  • I do not smoke the stuff. I did back in the 70s and did not really like it then. I just thought that what you said about having a paranoid buzz right before surgery was funny.
  • Anything can be abused....hello, our med's are abused each and every day by people who do not need them for pain but for the high they get. Same with marijuana, people will abuse it, should it be stopped because of this? If something will help a person who needs it without horrible side effects I am all for it.

    Bionic Woman, for the first time I am in full agreement with you. Children are medicated way too fast, parents need to look at the diet they are feeding their children and see if some of the problems lie there.

    Sharon
  • hey guys

    my theory is whatever works!! :-C

    i do have to agree with the abuse of these cards that are allocated to numerous amounts of people for no reason.

    i was warching DR Phil a few weeks ago and one of the staff with no medical diagnosis went to the doc and got a card by stating she had various symptoms.

    i live in ontario and a small amount here is legal to carry.

    ok . . . i live on the border in windsor next to detroit michigan. windsor is known as the amsterdam of north america. it's not only weed that is popular here. u can get it all. kinda scary. the night life downtown is literally crazy.
  • The problem lies with the fact that too many parents simply don't set boundaries and limitations for their children. When they're finally completely out of control, they label them with attention deficit or oppositional defiant and pump them full of drugs. ~X(

  • BionicWoman said:
    they label them with oppositional defiant and pump them full of drugs.
    That's me....oppositional defiant!! I had never heard of it before...but I swear that sounds exactly like what I got.....I'm off to get my card. Heck, I live in So.California, they'll probably give me 3 cards. :D
  • I might not be so paranoid smoking it if I had a legal supply...
  • Marijuana is a great skeletal muscle relaxant. Its also much safer than any prescription medication. Noone has died or overdosed on THC. Furthermore it does help with pain and especially fibromyalgia, KNOW THE FACTS AND DO YOUR RESEARCH.
  • pgcrswll said:
    KNOW THE FACTS AND DO YOUR RESEARCH.

    Why do you feel you have to yell?

  • There's two sides to every ounce of research. True, there has never been a fatality as a result overdosing. However, there's extensive research that shows marijuana acts as a gateway for abuse of other illicit drugs.

    Many of us face extreme struggles to obtain even inadequate treatment for chronic pain. Do we really need to bring such a controversial drug into the picture, when it has such potential to act as a gateway to other illegal drugs and will link chronic pain even more closely with drug addiction and abuse?

    Food for thought. No shouting required. ;))
  • oh geez , For instance if you were able to choose whether your kid would advance more quickly into a drug "gateway" Wouldnt you feel their spiral would be quicker if they tried opiates or other pain medications? Thousands die every year from opiates while marijuana users get a good nights sleep.

    Research is important. And bionic woman as you say lots of us have trouble treating our pain. Wouldnt you like atleast one more non addictive way to treat pain ? It works for me and an estimated 200,000 others in California.
  • BionicWoman said:
    The problem lies with the fact that too many parents simply don't set boundaries and limitations for their children. When they're finally completely out of control, they label them with attention deficit or oppositional defiant and pump them full of drugs. ~X(
    Are you saying that ADHD and OD are not real? hmmmmm

    I have a son and he IS ADHD. He's on meds. Are you saying that I'm a bad parent that has not set boundaries for him or limitations. My son went on meds at age 4. Not because he was overly hyper but because of the attention deficit issue. And he's NEVER been completely out of control.

    The terms ADD and ADHD are used interchangeably these days. There are plenty of children, even adults, that are undiagnosed and would benefit from medication. The brain is wired differently. That's why the meds work!

    Don't make blanket statements like that. Responsible parents recognize when their children need help and get it for them. They are advocates. They fight for their children. They fight when people make uneducated comments. I've been told by people who don't have a clue that they would never put their child on meds for ADHD. Fine, guess they would choose to ignore other medical conditions too. But you cannot tell me that I haven't witnessed significant improvements with my child.
  • completely. There are more dangers with prescription drugs than with marijuana. Sure, it has potential for abuse but so do pain meds. Might be lots of people out there that should not have legal use of it but there are lots of people that are getting scripts for pain meds that should not have them either. We do not like it when people pre-judge us for using opiates or other pain killers, we should not judge the people that get relief from marijuana. This is just my opinion and of course everyone is entitled to their own.
  • I didn't say it wasn't effective for some people. I didn't say it wasn't safe. I didn't even say I was against it for pain management.

    What I said was, in the words of my beloved Granny, why invite the devil to dinner?
  • The devil wouldnt bring thousands of pain patients relief and the ability to use a safer substance for their pain.
  • painintheback said:
    completely. There are more dangers with prescription drugs than with marijuana. Sure, it has potential for abuse but so do pain meds. Might be lots of people out there that should not have legal use of it but there are lots of people that are getting scripts for pain meds that should not have them either. We do not like it when people pre-judge us for using opiates or other pain killers, we should not judge the people that get relief from marijuana. This is just my opinion and of course everyone is entitled to their own.
    Well said thank you for your input :)
  • amen. And if by 'devil' you mean medical marijuana, then I guess I invite the devil to bed with me every night because medical marijuana is the only thing that helps alleviate my insomnia. It's not for everyone, but hey to each his/her own.
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