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Acupuncture, Bad experience!

AnonymousUserAAnonymousUser Posts: 49,623
edited 06/11/2012 - 7:25 AM in Alternative Treatments
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Hi
My first acupuncture treatment with the NHS did not go well. I was shown a cubicle then left for 15mins, before a women came in, put the chair facing the wall then put in the needles in 5mins flat, then said "if you need anyone just shout". If I had known I would have asked to lie down not sit.

No washing of hands between me and another patient before me. As I sat the pain from the needles begame to painful to take any longer(stabbing pains in my neck,arm and head), so I shouted for help. No-one came. Then when the time was up another person came in, asked how many and been put in, then pulled them out. Threw cotton at me and then left. I was left, I got dressed, opened the curtain, no-one was around.

I spoke to a passing nurse and asked if i could go as the pain i was in by now was severe. Sorry i cant let you go until you have been told. She paged the Dr, who came in and said that I should have just gone. 1hr had passed by now.

Not only had the needles caused pain,but no-one had spoken or been around to help. I did not enjoy pain for 15mins. I had been led to believe that acupuncture was meant to be relaxing and was meant to help with muscle spasm. Not leave me in more pain, which led to me being in bed for a week. Feeling for days that the needles were still in me.

Has anyone else here had a bad experience?

Thanks x :S
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  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 10,045
    talk about acupuncture.
    Its an entire thread dedicated to discussing acupuncture.
    http://www.spine-health.com/forum/pain-management/pro-or-no-meds
    I do have to say that I have never heard of an bad experience like the one you had
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • I gave acupuncture 5 tries as I will try anything to help the pain. It was uncomfortable about 3x out of the 5 tries. I had trigger therapy with 8 injections in my back for six weeks straight and that was uncomfortable too and also didn't work. But what might work for some may not work for someone else. I'd try anything that is ok'd by my Dr. to help ease my backpain. Hope you're feeling better Pix. Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • Wow, I'm sorry that your intro to acupuncture was such a bust. My first experience was one of education and very relaxing. After explaining where each needle was going to be placed and why, the needles were inserted, the doc placed a heat lamp over me and then turned out the lights and pulled the door closed most of the way. I nearly fell asleep.

    I've had acupuncture countless times and never had an experience such as yours. Sorry about your experience.

    "C"
  • So sorry your accupuncture was a negative experience. I love accupuncture and it has helped me so much. Luckily at the GP practice I have,all the doctors are excellent and well experienced at placing the needles and explain what they are doing.
    I have needles in my lumber regularly, every 28 days, to release tensed up muscles in my lumber and lately I have had shoulder/neck after I tried to do too much pruning work in the garden.(Bad girl!)

    I hope you do try to give this treatment a chance, as it is fantastic, when it does work. When I go in for lumber accu. I take a large square cotton scarf to have my face on, as I can`t relax on the paper sheets there are on the treatment couches and I have my mobile `phone next to me, the doc always wipes my skin over with spirit before the needles are placed in the most painful & tense areas and then an equal number of needles are placed equally opposite these, then the doc tells me how many needles he has placed & leaves for at least 15 minutes, I set my alarm for 20 minutes and relax, sometimes I fall asleep and sometimes I play games on my `phone or even send some text messages or just play some music.

    The area often becomes warm and red and I feel very relaxed and sleepy, After 15 minutes or so, someone comes in to remove the needles and I slowly get dressed and sit a while before I go home. The procedure is not a sterile one, but normal hand hygiene between patients is to be expected whereever you go.My doc washes his hands before handling the needles. (at new places I ask inquisitively do you wash your hands between patients or are you going to wear gloves for this- cheeky , but it works, ;) ) Your needles can be used several times and should be placed in a sealed bag with your name on after they have been wiped off with spirit, or you may get new needles every time.

    When having shoulder/ neck area treated I sit backwards on an office chair hanging with my weight over the back rest and the chair pushed up to the desk, 10 minutes seems to work well for me here, but you will have to find your individual "working time" for how long you have the needles in.

    I am really quite angry that this was made such a bad experience for you, as it is a really good way to relax your muscles and if you get it right you may, like me, be able to cut down on pain medication, which is good for your liver, your well being and your bank account!

    I would tell them at your next accupuncture that the first time was made a bad experience for you and anyone with the slightest pride in their work, will work hard to do a good job for you.

    Best Wishes Viking :)))
  • I am sorry of your bad experience. I would never say that any of my accupuncture visits have been relaxing. I have had a lot of pain while getting it also. I do get great results after the visit though. I am sorry. I hope you find some kind of comfort
  • :H
    After having been now for my second acupunture, things were better. Things went very different from the first time.

    :jawdrop: However the acupuncturist is now saying why was I reffered, as this looks like it is aggrivating your condition. I talked her round to giving me it and am going again next week to get it again. As I really want to give this a go. Thanks for all your support, >:D< as at times it is hard to talk to family about it.

    I after reading all your comments, have found the strengh again to keep on plodding on. Thanks charry and viking for your help. I can not give up,have been going now to the pain clinic for 2yrs with no result. But still have hope!

    Thanks x >:D< >:D< >:D<
  • Hello,I am new but I had a similar experience with accupunture.I got the room with dark lighting and the heat lamp but I was in terrible pain later and wanted to throw up.I think I have sciatica.Well that is what the Doctors tell me.I like all of you, am willing to try anything .I am desperate.I have been limping since the middle of November when I broke my baby toe.Since the toe healed my lower back is hot and swollen and my right hip feels it is going to break off and the radiating pain down my right leg and knee is making me want to die.

    On a positive note has anyone tried spinal decompression therapy.I have tried physio with three different therapists,massge therapy which made the sciatica worse and a chiropractor.I am still limping and in pain.I am also waiting for MRI. ~X( ~X( Thanks for listening Jeannie
  • You had a terrible experience!! What kind of clinic was it?

    I had acupuncture in a very calming environment, soft music, gentle needle placement, very attentive doc.

    I'm so sorry. Please don't let that color your opinion overall. You will find a night and day difference if you go to a more traditional acupuncture clinic.

    Take care,

    Cheri
  • dilaurodilauro ConnecticutPosts: 10,045
    have different effects on different people. Some medical folks I have talked to have basically stated that to really get the benefits of acupuncture you sort of have to 'want it to work'. You have to go in feeling you are going to get benefits from it.
    I have had almost a year and a half of acupuncture treatments.
    They are all positive, the only negative is that the 'good'
    feelings never lasted that long.
    I need to go back for some more sessions, may 5 or 6 to help calm down a recent flare up.

    I have a weak stomach, but that has been based on all the medications, at times with acupuncture treatments I would be sick to my stomach, throwing up for hours. After I told my doctor that, she added a needle to help calm my GI system and that worked
    Ron DiLauro Spine-Health System Administrator
    I am not a medical professional. I comment on personal experiences
    You can email me at: rdilauro@veritashealth.com
  • Hi, so sorry to hear of your bad experience. I have had acupuncture a few times and it has always been calm, not painful and relaxing with good privacy and the person if they left me for a little while were soon back to check I was OK.

    I did not find it very helpful with my particular back issues.I did get some relief of pain but it was not long lasting enough.However, it was very relaxing and the pain went during the treatment and for a little while afterwards which was also helpful to me at that time and something worth trying. A friend of mine has it regularly and it really helps him with longer lasting pain relief so I guess we are all different in what works for us best.
  • I, too, am very sorry to hear of your acupuncture experience. I'm glad you gave it a second try and the experience was better. Regarding your first experience, are these acupuncturists licensed? It sounds like they are more concerned with the quantity of patients they treat than the quality of care they administer.

    Perhaps things have improved, but you may want to consider seeing another acupuncturist. There are a lot of different approaches within the field of Chinese medicine (and specifically acupuncture). I am a licensed acupuncturist and I own & operate a clinic. Do you feel comfortable telling your acupuncturist how you feel? It would probably be very helpful for you (and the practitioner) if you said that you felt rushed or not listened to.

    A typical initial acupuncture treatment can last 90 or more minutes and usually involves ~60 minutes of one-on-one time with the practitioner. Follow-up treatments are usually shorter, but should still involve ~25 - 30 minutes of one-on-one time with the practitioner. It is important that the patient feel his/her complaints are fully understood.

    Additionally, if the needles are uncomfortable or painful, it's okay to tell the acupuncturist. The acupuncturist should be able to adjust the needles (or replace the needles with finer gauge needles) so that they are not uncomfortable. An acupuncturist should be able to modify the treatment plan/approach based upon the way you respond to treatment. If your pain is worse or you feel sick after treatment, the acupuncturist should adjust your treatment plan accordingly. I would recommend providing your acupuncturist with this feedback. If the acupuncturist is unwilling to modify his/her treatment approach based upon your feedback, I think you are fully justified in discontinuing treatment and finding another acupuncturist.

    Also, I don't agree that you have to believe acupuncture will work in order for it to do so. I have seen many patients who have been dragged into my office by a spouse and have told me in no uncertain terms that acupuncture is a joke, only to receive benefit from treatment. Conversely, some of the patients that believe in acupuncture the most can receive minimal (if any) benefit. Based upon my experience, I don't believe it is merely placebo.

    The vast majority of patients describe acupuncture as very relaxing. I'm sorry your first experience was so negative. I hope that you are able to find an acupuncturist that listens to you and helps you find your path to health.


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  • Bexz1981BBexz1981 Posts: 1
    edited 08/22/2015 - 1:22 AM
    I wonder can anybody tell me if accupuncture can change the current status of my back?
    Since 2010 I have had annual bouts of sciatica lasting up to 2 weeks leaving me in agony and disabled.
    This I presume started due to dealing with pub cellars as I was a pub manager for 10 yrs.
    I thought that when the winter of 2014 had passed me by without incident I had pressumed that all the exercise I was doing had paid off! Only to find that in January 2015 my back went down worse then ever? This time I was in sheer agony and completely disabled until I couldn't take no more by March I was pleading with my dr for sufficient pain relief and a diagnosis. By the end of April I was back on my feet without aid and went for an MRI which showed i have a bulging disc L4/L5 with minimal nerve compression which made sense at the time as I was walking but still in a degree of pain which was manageable. I was told by my dr and the physiotherapist that I would be great after a bout of physio and accupuncture and back on my feet , so off I went!
    After the first week of physio and doing the exercises I was told to do I was feeling that little bit worse? "Hey you have to get worse before it gets better!" I said?
    I told my physiotherapist and he gave me easier exercises and told me I must be a bit too sensitive for the more advanced ones! So on I go with week 2.
    By week 3 my back is considerably worse so out come the needles,accupuncture is the answer to all my woes says the physiotherapist!
    I found I was very relaxed during the session and felt no pain! So I got up and left expecting that in a few days I'm going to be perfect! How wrong I was? For the whole week, day by day I felt a lot worse and even asked my doctor if this was normal! He said yes it usually flares up for a few days after but afterwards I'll feel amazing! Exactly 7 days after accupuncture I was in worse pain than ever before! I was driven screaming and crying, muscles spasms pulsating through me with all the usual excruciating pain of sciatica but with constant cramp taking over my whole left leg and foot to my last physio appointment and all that was good for was lying on her bench crying while she sympathies with me!
    That was 3 months ago and now Im lying in bed flat on my back as that is the only way I'm not in agony! Even getting up on crutches kills me and I cannot bathe, dress or do anything without help and I definitely cannot stand or sit!
    So here's the questions that killing me and will keep on until I see the neurosurgeon In October....
    (1) did the accupuncture shift something and make it worse?
    (2) is my Graves' disease (hyperthyroidism)
    Causing this?
    (3) is that fact that I live an extremely stressful life (through no fault of my own) causing me more pain?
    I'm 34 with 2 kids and haven't been any good to them in 8 months and cannot see a clear end in sight? My dr says she thinks it's just sciatica but my symptoms seem exactly the same as degenerative disc disease? But I'm not a dr so does anyone know how to pin point the cause more precisely ? It's driving me insane and hate having to wait until October with no change to see the dr!
    Any ideas anyone?

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  • I have had acupuncture for years and have never had it sitting in a chair.

    The original poster said she had acupuncture done at the NHS, which I assume is the British National Health Service. I would assume that is probably very different from getting acupuncture done at a private clinic, which is generally at least relaxing.

    If the original poster can afford it, he or she might trying going to a private clinic for acupuncture and see if there is a better result. Acupuncture has been helpful to me over the years with neck pain issues, but it never provided long-term relief, is expensive and, in my opinion, doesn't solve any underlying structural issues.
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