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Lower back problem for one and a half year -

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edited 06/11/2012 - 8:29 AM in Lower Back Pain
Hi everybody,

recently learned about this site and I wanted to try and find people with similar problems like mine. My name is Teodor Stoyanov (24) from Bulgaria and I have a back problem from 16 months. It is a dull pain in my lower back (left and right) that never disappears.
It all sarted when I lifted around 50kg from unconvinient position. I felt a strong sharp pain in my lower back (near the gluteus maximus). I could hardly
walk the next month, but I thought it will go away by itself. After a month of pain I visited a manual therapist, but the therapy did not have any effect. He tried to diagnose me without even an x-ray. He said that I have a disk protrusion and it happened because I use a computer very often... Then I made a MRI scanning. The results were that there isn't anything serous that might be causing the pain. The was no hernation of the disks, but I have scoliosis in the lower back and they also found a Smorle's node, but I was told that this cannot cause the pain. During the last year,
I have been through several treatments but with no effect. During the last 15 months I've had some strange changes in the pain I feel.
During the first six months or so, there were a couple of times where I didn't feel pain for about 2-3 days. Then in the next six months, I had times when the pain concentrated in one point only and it was gone from my lower back. Then, after 2 days the pain starts returning to my lower part and disappearing from the point. Another thing that happened is that I started having this shooting pain in the "tail" - the lowest part of the spine. It comes for moment only, but it is very strong and moves my whole body. I used to have this as a child but very rarely. Another thing that happened is that when I had to go to the toilet (number 2) my pain increased.

Many things happened for 15 months and I tried different therapies but there was no effect. I also tried with medication: Milgamma N, Mydocalm, and Flamexin for two weeks, but it didn't work. I have been consulting with maybe 10 doctors but no one seems to understand what is going on. That is why I am turning to this forum, to find someone who could have experience with the same kind of problems.


  • I too suffered from lower back pain for 2 1/2 years until they found I had tears in three discs. I had MRI, Cat scans, myleograms and every type of back injection possible, until I had a discography did they find the tears. Sometimes tears are not seen on MRIs and this test is the only way to find them. Just a thought for you to ask Dr, as maybe this could solve the mystery. Good Luck.
  • hi iowarobin,

    thank you very much for your comment, I've never been told about "discography" but I see it mentioned here a lot. I will consult a Dr about this, although I have lost my faith in Bulgarian healthcare system by now. I also spent a lot of cash for private therapists with no effect.

    So, what happened to your problem after you were diagnosed? What treatment did you undergo and how are you feeling now?
    And about discography - is this painful?

    Thanks a lot,
  • I had a two level disectomey and fusion. My discs were removed and replaced with cadavar bone and then fusion. I had this on Dec 11 and it is a long process. It takes a year or so to fully fuse and the surgery was painful. But I was on alot of narcotics before surgery and did not have any quality of life, so I felt I had nothing to lose. I am feeling better than I was, but like I said it is a long reocvery. The discogram is not painful unless you have torn or herniated discs. But they give you a sediative so at least I really dont remember it. If the disc is the pain generator, it will be painful. If not, it wont. Hope this helps. I know it is hard to live with back pain, and if I can help someone else find out whats wrong from what I have endured, I like to help. You can find out details of the procedure if you google discography.
  • I speak your language but your English is fine so,here it goes
    Discography is a test during which they inject a dye(kontrastno veshtestvo) in the discs.The dye produces pain and that is how the problematic disc is identified.If there is one to begin with.MRI usually shows bad discs very well.As
    far as I know Schmorl's Nodes can cause back pain.
    I now you hurt,but the good thing is that the pain does not radiate down your legs.
    What are all these medications?I used to take Tilkotil or used Profenid Gel.They are both NSAID.They were effective.
    What treatments have you had?Have you gone to Pavel Banya?
    They have awesome Physical therapy facilities.Have you seen
    a Physical Therapist yet.You might need to work on your muscles.You will be surprised how much muscular imbalance can hurt.One other thing...don't lift 50kg anymore.What was it,torba cement?If you have more questions,ask them.There are a lot of people on this forum who can share experiences and information.Welcome to the club!

  • did your doctor tell you the tears are what is causing the pain? i have tears in 2 discs shown by mri but i keep getting told that my pain isnt the tears but they wont do a discogram because im so young. just need some help clearing things up
  • Ask your Dr for a Pain Management Dr. I've had injections for the facet joints and epidurals and trigger point injections. Get a cushion with a hole in it to take weight off your tailbone(coccyx cushion) when you sit. Have you tried a heating pad? I have a infrared platinum heating pad that penetrates inches in the muscle as opposed to a heating pad where it only comforts the surface of the muscle. Even ice can help. But try to get a Pain Management Dr. Tell Dr it hurts when #2 even get colace. I have pain too and tailbone cracks & crunches. Best wishes and hope you can get some pain relief. Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • The discogram is what confirmed that the tears were giving me pain. My MRI didnt show the tears, do that is why the discogram was done. I dont know why age has a factor for the test, it is the gold standard that surgeons use for confirming which discs are painful. Have they given you any options for the tears and how to releive the pain?
  • i've just been told by a jerk of a pain dr to try more physical therapy. ive already been through physical therapy and it made the pain worse. i have tears but my doc keeps telling me that he doesnt know why i am in so much pain. and wont give me a discogram....i think im going to try to get a second opinion
  • You need to go to a neuro or ortho to get some help. My pain Dr was not a fan of fusions, and if he had his way I wouldnt have done it. But I am hoping that it helps. I know it has to some degree as I can walk straighter and longer. So go to the right Dr and see what they will do. Good Luck.
  • Welcome to SH :H It's always nice to hear from people all over the world. I'm sorry about your back pain and also think that you should try finding a doctor who could perform the discogram. Sometimes it takes seeing many doctors or having multiple tests to discover the cause of pain. I understand what you're going through because I have chronic lower back pain and sciatica and require pain specialists to manage my problems. I hope you find a good doctor and someday recover from this back pain. Take care
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