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A page of hope

firewater1981ffirewater1981 Posts: 84
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:36 AM in Good News
Hello all, :H
For those who don’t know me my name is Chris and I posted an introduction about myself on the introduction section of this website. In my introduction I explained that due to my chronic pain I scour the internet for hope and for a cure. We all know that there is not a cure for herniated and degenerated discs to date, but that does not mean that medical science is not advancing at an unprecedented rate and that there will not be one in the future. Too many times have I been told to stay away from surgery or just to deal with the pain until I cannot bear it anymore and then get surgury. If I have anything to say about it I will hold off on surgery (since it is permenant and I have been told often inneffective) as long as I can as there are very promising technologies just on the horizon. My plan with this blog page is to post the link and some information on some interesting things I have found throughout my internet searches. My goal is to provide hope both to myself and to bring that hope to you. If any of you find an article of interest please post it here. =D>


This article is what inspired me to get back onto spine health and to start posting again. Mesoblast, an Australian company has been doing research in regenerating intervertebral disc cartilage. On September 10, 2009 they announced “A single low-dose injection of Mesoblast's allogeneic or "off-the-shelf' adult stem cells into severely damaged intervertebral discs resulted in dramatic reversal of the degenerative process, regrowth of disc cartilage, and sustained normalization of disc pathology, anatomy and function.” Very inspiring news. I have this company (Mesoblast) bookmarked as they are one of the only companies doing research into regenerating spinal discs instead of replacing them and has made substantial progress.


Here is some more encouraging news. Another company (Cytori) has recently reported success on Intervertebral disc regeneration.


  • All who are reading this,

    I posted this on one of my responses to a member in the "new introduction" section. I think this could benifit (or at least I hope) most of you if not some of you.

    A couple of things that helped me. Granted everyone is different and different techniques help different people. I am by no means a doctor so dont take this as medical advice.

    The best thing that I did for myself was purchase items to help with pain and to change my lifestyle.

    I tried traction treatment. A local chiropractic clinic here in San Antonio had a machine called DRX 9000. After a couple of weeks of using it my sciatic pain was significantly reduced. Granted I still get flare ups if I over due it but I am glad I did the treatment.

    How is your mattress? A firm mattress works best for me. I noticed that by replacing my mattress I woke up with little to no pain. It helps me get through the day realizing that I have one place I can go to eliminate at least some (if not all) of the pain. I purchased a sleep number bed. Best purchase I ever made. I sleep on 90 or 95 out of 100.

    I purchased a good office chair. Not just a nice leather one but one that support me and my spine. I found that one with a mesh back supports my spine the best. The office chair I used at work in the Air Force was the Herman Miller Aeon office chair. Its the only chair that I can sit in for longer then a few minutes. This helps me watch movies and sit and type at my computer.

    All of these items and procedures are expensive.
    DRX treatment ($3,000)
    Sleep number bed ($2,000)
    Aeon Miller offce chair ($1,000)
    I by no means am saying they will work for you, but I am willing to pay the price and try new things because my train of thought is, how valuable is a good nights sleep? How valuable is sitting for a while and watching Tv or typing. I didnt mind making payment on these things and they have helped me change my life.

    I still of course need to be careful in what I do. Just because I did something’s that help doesn’t mean I can go back to running or doing a lot of activities, but it has helped me get a lot of my quality of life back. I hope this helps.

    :))) :H
  • HI Chris

    My husband and I often argue about the price of things. He believes that more money means it is better. I tend to stay toward the middle on most purchases since I know how quickly things are changing these days.

    But you have a good point. If something will provide a non-phamacutical aid then it is probably worth the investment. I have one drug that is currently costing me $500 a month. That is $6,000 a year. If a chair or bed could replace that I would be all for it.

    These days alot of companies are willing to let you try their products and return if you aren't happy. This is a great benefit of our economic times. How many of us have exercise equipment in a closet or basement that we never used after the first week??

    I also think there are huge improvements on the horizon. If you can hold out there are great things coming.

    I hope you continue to share things that work for you. THe one thing we all have in common is that we will have health concerns for the rest of our lives.

  • Spineys,

    Mesoblast posted an update on the 15th of September 2009 in regards to regenerating damaged/degenerated intervertebral discs with stem cells. The article has some good pictures and charts of the promising results they have recieved by using stem cells to regenerate the disc. You can go to their main site to check out all of their atricles and this one.


    Here is the main link to the article published by mesoblast on September 15, 2009.
  • Hi,
    Yes a firm matress is good. I wondered what the drug that you have for $500 a month? Not that I could do it unless it really worked, so can you elaborate? A good desk chair is also a good investment and a hot tub gives me the best short term relief and with a script, you can write off on your taxes (including install) if you itemize medical expenses. I have been told by some doctors that "feldon-kriess"(sp ?) and Wasu water massage is supposed to be good. Unfortunately I have found no "magic bullet" and ultimately they want more surgery. I had the bottom 3 vertebre fused and the pain down my siatic nerve came back after 3 months. I wish I had never done it. The scoliosis has just returned above the fusion. Have you heard about laser treatment?
  • Wow! Thanks for posting this, Mesoblast's results almost seem too good to be true. If their approach works as well in people as it does in sheep, it will be a major advance. I wonder how well the treated discs hold up beyond one year.

    As someone headed towards fusion, I hope they can get through the clinical stage successfully and quickly!
  • Spineys,

    A few days ago (Oct 26, 2009) Mesoblast held a question and answer section titled investors briefing with the CEO. This article with show you the direction that Mesoblast is going and will hopefully answer some of your questions about both the company and their stem cell technology. In the article the CEO explains that while the company has other uses for its stem cell line product (bone repair, fusion) its primary purpose is to continue on it successful results with healing mild to advanced stage degenerative disc disease and herniations with stem cells. This, as you will read, is one of their main goals. You can check out Mesoblast's website to get more details.
    Click on the Oct 26, Investors briefing

    Unfortunately for both you and I, in my most recent search for medical and technological advancements to help us spineys I have been unable to come up with anything other then this Mesoblast article. Fortunately there is a company out there doing research to help us return naturally (non implant) to as close as possible before our disease. Unfortunately they are the only one. Do a search and see if you can find any other companies doing research and please post them here. This is my page of hope too!

    Keep your head up people! I'm trying. Technology is advancing daily and a breakthrough I feel is just around the corner.

  • I have been getting some emails from some people asking for help. I just wanted to say I feel your pain (literally) and I am not a doctor nor do I work for any company that is promising anything. In fact I am currently unemployed.

    What I can tell you is that if you are having a lot of pain see your doctor or a specialist. They are trained in ways many of us are not.

    As far as encouragement there are companies that have been successful and are continuing research in actually regenerating the disc through the use of stem cells. This does not mean that this is "the cure" we are all looking for. What it does mean is that we (humans) are getting closer and closer towards finding an alternative to fusion whatever that may be. Most know that fusion puts added stress on the adjoining joints of the spine and could accelerate damage in those areas, as well as it often does not provide the relief that people are looking for.
    However if you need fusion, please, please do not hold out just for a breakthrough. Sometimes waiting too long does irreparable damage. And this "stem cell research" to "repair/regenerate DDD and herniated discs" is still at least 3-4 years off. So buy all means don't wait.

    I am writing this to you to give you encouragement but to also say be smart about what you do. This usually starts with getting professional help.

    Take care,
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