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Feel like a test rat

LasVegasLLasVegas Posts: 95
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:48 AM in New Member Introductions
5 yrs ago I cracked 6 vertabrae, had to use a walker to help me walk normal again, did the physical therapy, of course the pain meds-addiction/dependency/withdrawels, etc.

After 3 yrs I was back to about 75% strength and comfort level, despite humid or cold would make it feel especially painful, was told that was arthritis settling in. Use a heating pad from time to time.

2 months ago I was rear-ended in a car accident and suffer from whiplash (neck) and my lumber region flared up with tremendous pain. Xrays are normal, but MRI's show neck (new car accident) shows bulging discs and the lumber MRI shows bulging discs, narrowing, and arthritis.

Since this recent car accident 2 months ago, I hired a Personal Injury atty who referred me to a chiropractor that accepted services on an attorney lien. This chiro office was not what I am used to in a medical environment. For starters, I have a difficult time calling the guy a doctor when he has limited formal medical education and the chiro practice in general is not recognized by the American Medical Association as medical professionals. But I was openminded and thought it was worth a try. He placed me on a table and after questioning me and reading my xray report showing no current fractires, asked me if I wanted to be "racked and craked", lingo I did not expect but figured I would give it a try in hopes of relief. He attempted to crack my upper back, but said I was tight and could not do it, maybe next time. Then he cracked my neck and cracked my lower spine resulting in me feeling worse pain immediately thru the next week. Did not repeat that again.

This chiro office tried to teach me physical therapy exercises that were painful and was told the 1st exercise was the least painful of all they would teach me. I did not attempt, nor follow thru with the exercises.

Lastly, they had me hooked to wires from a machine which sent electricity to my neck and lumber, which was suppose to alter the nerve signals to the brain reducing pain. This procedure just aggravated me making me feel like a dog wearing a shock collar. Needless to say, I quit chiropractic.

I was determined to find some relief so I "cold-called" a bunch of massage therapists and found a place close to my home that offers trigger point therapy and will accept an attorney lien. Been going for 3 weeks in a row, 1x/wk. Feels pretty good when I am there, with some pain but I deal with it, however once I leave within an hour the stiff painful neck with limited range of motion and stabbing pain in my lower back exists as if I never even went to get the therapeutic massage.

I was referred from the worthless chiro to a pain mgmt office who also accepted an attorney lien. Dr prescribed Percocet and Flexeril which are just bandaids and of course after only a month am already taking more than prescribed.

Pain mgmt Dr had me go for the MRIs, noted above. That was 2 hours of hell listening to that thumping space age racket., while lying on my back in severe pain. After reading MRI results, the Dr is recommending facet injections in my neck and also epidural injection in my lumbar. Nervous about this procedure as i've read side effects, not a high percentage rate of "cure" and they will be administering anesthesia prior to injections, which means I need to have my girlfriend take the day off work with me so she can drive me, etc. Procedure is scheduled for this Wed 11/3rd. Just going with the recommendations and honestly not too educated of what to expect, after care, etc. Maybe someone can chime in on this for me?

Does not seem like many options I have tried are "cures", just "band-aids" and am feeling like I am wasting my time and should just go to an orthopedic specialist. But then what?...they will recommend surgery or what good are orthopedics compared to all else I have tried?

As you can probably read by now, I am frustrated, in constant pain and am venting at 4am, lol. Anybody with some insight to comfort me with suggestions, please reply as I am open to anything as long as an attorney lien will suffice, hence no out of pocket cash and have no health insurance. Happy Halloween, signed the test rat in Las Vegas


  • Hey there,

    Welcome to spine-health. I can tell you are frustrated and looking for answers. I'm sorry you are hurting but from reading your posts, I would say "slow down". You seem you are looking for a quick answer. And, as a result, are not happy with the consults you are receiving.

    Dont'feel pressured to take advice. Take a deep breath and a step back. Let the so-called "band-aid" get you some pain relief so you can do your research/homework.

    I personally am not a chiropractor fan in regards to spine issues. I know some people have had success but with spine issues, you need to talk caution. Chiro's have value in some situations but a good chiro will take caution on treating you with a back history.

    i would suggest also taking caution on a massage therapist until you consult a fellowship trained Orthospine doctor or Neurosurgeon. Why? because massage therapists aren't doctor's either.

    First...go see a doctor. Tell the surgeon your concerns about another surgery, injections, pain med addiction. Ask the surgeon what the diagnosis is. A bulging disc doesnt' always mean surgery. It's one factor of many that needs to be looked at.

    Ask the surgeon their thoughts on chiro or massage therapist. Sometimes Massage is good but sometimes it relaxes the 'core muscles' that are helping protect the spine/disc. Ask the surgeron what PT and non-surgical procedures you can consider to help reduce the pain and avoid further injury.

    I know you are in pain and scared (especially without health insurance) but do not allow yourself to be a test rat because of circumstance.

    I hope I helped give you some advice. Basically don't look for a quick fix. It's ok to find a band-aid as long as it's to buy you some time to save money and/or get to a trained medical person.

    Good luck.
  • Thanks for your reply. As noted, the only treatment options available to me are from those who will accept an attorney lien in hopes they will get paid after my atty gets a settlement from the driver who hit me. Of course I want to look at all my options and am open-minded to pretty much anything that may help. Is an orthopedic the most educated of all spine/neck doctors?

    It is my understanding from reading on this site, that Epidural injections and Facet injections often require more than 1 time. But on rare occasions it has been a great help with only one procedure.

    Curious if these injections I scheduled for this coming Wed 11/3rd did offer some relief, how soon should I expect to feel relief; immediate?, after a day or two?, a week? I realize everybody heals differently and everybody reacts differently to procedures but there has to be some type of a timeline/guideline if the procedure was effective or not.
  • Welcome to the site. WOW, that is scary what you went through with the chiro, and he not even regcognized by the AMA. Too bad we don't know what our aptions are before we need them.

    You will find much great info here. Hope you are on the path to recovery.

  • Sorry to hear what you've been through. For facet joint injections and the epidural I usually have some relief right away then more pain at times throughout the day then I usually ice and apply heat after, then up to 2 weeks after I get some relief. Pain level is presently at a 3-4 right now when I'm usually 6-7 before injections. But sometimes through the day I still go up to 6-7 for brief periods. I had the most relief for the sciatica from the injection and just had my injections two weeks ago. Everyone has their own experiences though. Best wishes and hope they work for you.

    I've seen 2 Orthopedic Surgeon and 1 Neurosurgeon and a Neurologist I saw first for the EMG/nerve test for the numbness in my leg/arm. Take care. Charry
    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
  • hi and welcome to the forum! :H we are here to offer you support and answer what questions we can. please make yourself at home and have a good look around.. good luck to you and your pain issues! Jenny :)
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