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Help ,I am new from New Zealand

SurfernomoreSSurfernomore Posts: 4
edited 06/11/2012 - 8:54 AM in Chronic Pain
Hi Everybody!,Thank god i can read about other people who have pain all day and night and feel the same way as me !
I hurt my neck surfing 3 years ago and was already on borrowed time with annular tears with bulging discs in C6/7 L3/4/5 and L5 /S1 squished together.I have beed a Surfer for 38 years and Practicing and teaching Yoga for 11 years.
Now for 3 years I cant surf or Practice yoga, my two physical loves ,especially surfing!When the MuscularSkeletal Specialist? said i cant go Surfing anymore ,I walked out of his office bummed out ,feeling sorry for myself..then i looked up and saw a guy in a wheelchair,young...I told myself to shutt up ,stop feeling sorry for myself ,be gratefull ect...Well 3 years later im getting worse and worse!,my wife does not understand at all ! Grrrr..I never moan to her.I am in pain all the time,i take 7x300mg Gabapentin,2 morning,2midday,3 bedtime..also 8x50mg Tramadol,and 3x2mg Diazepam ,have cut Diazepam down from 8x2mg a day but dont think i can lower the doses any less as i have tried but the tramadol keeps me awake and the diazepam helps me have a couple of hours sleep untill i wake up with nerve pain screaming from my neck or sciatica down to my toes. I dont know what to do next. I had 2 steroid,cortisone injections ,1st one was great for two days ,then pain was worse !specialst would not give me another for one month and when she did i had a severe reaction to the cortisone,broke out in rashes,mega headaches,hives,heat flushes and nausea not for a couple of days but two months.I am currently seeing a physio but when i try out the exercises i aggravate one hot spot,or another!
I have accupunctuer 2x a week and get releif for 4 hours.
I hope to be seeing a Nuerosurgeon soon,what do I say to him? I am so frightened of these specialists as they say to me the MRI scan shows only a small bulge with annular tears,and just wait and see..well its been three years now,and i hate to say this ,but I feel like ending my life sometimes..it is like a cruel torture ..I work 35 hrs a week and dont know how much longer i can last...I fear going to bed at night as I know I will sleep for an hour then bang! back to nerve pain again,burning searing pain down my calf to little toes...I feel like a coward saying what i have said,but i need to tell someone.What do i do?change meds? I sleep with a soft collar on my neck and a pillow between my legs..I am worn out after 3 years,I am 54 and feel like 84. Does anyone have any suggestions Please!!
Love and kindness to all,may your suffering be eased a little somehow someway..thi I pray..David
David Wilson


  • it's good that you can work .if you have surgey make sure that you find an excellent surgeon .{from personal experience my first surgeon was not up to the job and i have suffered ever since .the second surgeon was unable to sort out the first surgeons work and now i am waiting for one of the uk's finest consultant to do a fusion on me }.i understand the not being able to sleep i have been like that for 5 years i spend the night on a recliner with a TENS unit on my back..when you go to see you consultant just tell him/her how you are feeling they will arrange some medical photography {MRI/CAT} and from there decide what is best for you .just remember that spinal surgey is major and recovery is long and unfortunately many spinal patients require revision surgey as the years roll on .good luck
    {my sister in law is a nurse over there }
    1997 laminectomy
    2007 repeat laminectomy and discectomy L4/L5
    2011 ALIF {L4/L5/S1}
    2012 ? bowel problems .still under investigation
    2014 bladder operation may 19th 2014
  • Hi David,I'm also from the land of the long white cloud.I'm in Hamilton.
    I don't have as bad a pain as you,but what I do have is constant aching & stiffness,which seems to get worse if I try to exercise through it.
    I hope things work out well for you,once you have seen your surgeon.Who has been reading your scans,eg have you seen a surgeon already?
    This is a great place to chat with others who know constant pain & nerve symptoms.Keep me postedc on your progress.
    Sorry that you are hurting this bad,I know it is a Horrible thing to have to experience.
    ps..I used to surf too.Live at Raglan for a few years,LOL.Some of the best years of my Life.But I grew up in the Naki.Some of my best waves were down there ,LOL.
  • David, Welcome to Spine Health.

    What tests have you had done? There are other tests that will show more of the structure and other that will show more soft tissue. Flexion/Extension x-rays can show how much instability of movement one has. With my lumbar surgery I had small bulges/flat disc areas but it wasn't enough to cause my issues.

    My NS had the flex/ext x-rays done on me and it showed a very large unstable segment (resulting in retroloistsis grade 4). I was also dislocated every time I moved or bent, but on the mri it didn't show up.

    There are CT scans with or with out contrast, & discograms, nerve testing etc. I am almost certain when you get sent to a specialist he/she will order more test to help diagnose you so they can look for a treatment.

    Many members have had luck with adding antidepressants to the mix of meds. I haven't added any for fear of weight gain, but am seriously thinking about it. Some of the anti-deressants can help significantly with nerve pain as well. I see you are on a nerve med already. Maybe your dose needs to go up. If you have been on the same meds all this time it may be time to change things- they can become less effective with time. Also maybe you should try a sleep med?

    Some times surgery really helps. Can you take your wife along with you to your next exam? Maybe if she hears from the doctor she will be more supportive. It is hard on our spouses, meeting my NS helped my husband understand what life is like for me.

    And if you haven't considered pain management please do so. I don't know how things work where you are at but it has been a godsent for me.

    Good luck,


  • Thank you Tony,I take great comfort from your advice and feel humbled by the pain and terrible way you have had to sleep over so much longer period of time compared to my case.I feel so much better to have shared what i have,to people i can trust,people that understand what the heck we all are going through.I will be pro-active always,somewhere somehow there is a way.
    I pray for your suffering to be eased.
    Kind thoughts and healing to you Tony
    David Wilson
  • Kiaora Mike,
    Thank you for your feedback and Ha ha you do come from the best surf in N.Z.
    I am from Mt Maunganui (the worst place for surf ha ha ) and used to travell everywhere to Raglan,The Naki ect ...now I keep those days as my goal to stay proactive to somehow get better.I just want to hopefully get better first!
    The spinal surgeon said that there was plenty of space where the bulging disc's and large annular tears are at L3/4/5 and that because my pain is on the left side of my leg and the bulges/tears on the right side he cant see how it is causing pain there and does not want to operate as the large bulges are not impinging the nerve.He said 3 months ago if it has not settled down in one month the pain must be coming from my bulging 6/7 and he will have to refer me to a Neurosurgeon...Well he didn't and so i have to wait for another couple of weeks because of a decision pending from ACC insurance,as they are stalling to send me to a Neurosurgeon because i took a month to see a doctor after the accident on 29/2/09 I just iced it and took over the counter anti inflammes,thinking it would get better..it got worse! this was 29/1/09 ! Anyway I hired lawyer and he was great! He slammed them with three medical points of law and the review hearing will give me a result in 2 weeks..Im praying it goes in my favour,the lawyer was confident and i felt confident,so i hope the Surf God Tangaroa does!
    Will keep you posted.
    I dont know what meds oxycontin and paracode are maybee better than tramadol? Can one still work while on these meds,I have to give mini consultations for health problems and prescribe/advise with natural therapies
    Thanks for your kind words..I will pray your suffering eases.
    Sunrise early morning surfs!
    David Wilson
  • Oh wow this site is amazing! Thank you ever so much Julie ! I will follow up many of your suggestions!
    I will send you more info tomorrow night as I am in too much pain to write anymore.I appreciate your feedback immensly and will update you tomorrow.
    I pray your suffering eases and the light of your kindness reflects back to you with a nice pain free sleep.
    Aloha David
    David Wilson
  • sorry to hear about the pain you're going through. if you're in new zealand you should check out a shuziqi product. They have had really good feedback and are gaining a lot of traction in new zealand with people in similar situations to yourself (maybe not as bad). I think its worth a shot! I hope they help you somehow, someway. I've had plenty of friends who have told me that their shuzi helped reduce or eliminate pains that they had in their neck/back etc. I figure its worth a shot?

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