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DDD in L4 and L5 now neck pain - are they related??



  • They may be related since you have DDD at L4/L5 you could also have DDD in cervical area (I do). It also could very well be muscular because of the changes from exercixing the other areas. It could be inflammation.

    I had a pinched muscle in my shoulder from muscles impinging on the nerves.

    It may give you some peace of mind by seeing the doctor and perhaps finding the cause of the pain.

    Take care,

    4 level ACDF C4-C7 5-2-11, laminectomy & discectomy L4-L5 1/26/12, ALIF L4-5, L5-S1 12/10/12.
  • Thanks for replying. Can I ask how do you know about your muscles pinching in your shoulders? Is it from a mri scan?? I think the only way they will know if i've DDD in my neck is a mri scan and the waiting list is really long. I'm going to see a spinologist and then take it from there. Swimming seems to annoy it more, so I'll give it a miss for a while.

    Can I ask do you have DDD long in L4/L5? The reason why am asking is will I def have to get an operation in my back at some time?? I'm in my late 20s

  • Having DDD in your lumbar spine can certainly mean that you also have problems in other parts of your spine.

    I had a spinal fusion in my lumbar spine and while I was doing physiotherapy to help with the recovery, I flared up various pains in my neck and mid spine. I had to stop several of the exercises.

    It sounds like the physio and pilates that you are doing is really helping your lumbar spine. Do make sure the teacher and physio are aware that you are having problems with your neck, so they can advise you which exercies not to do. I also found swimming aggravated my neck, if I tried to hold my head up while I swam. If I have my face in the water or swim on my back that helps.

    You may well be able to stop your back needing surgery by keeping your core muscles strong and being careful not to stir up problems. I found that pilates and physio helped a lot with my spine problems but as I had a structural problem, with a vertebra slipped forward on another, I needed surgery to fix that and get the pressure off my cord.

    I now have compression in my neck, so I have to be very careful. I am having physiotherapy every week and do daily exercises to keep my mobility as good as I can. I am much older than you (50s) and have managed to delay needing surgery for many years. You may be able to keep it at bay indefinately. Do let someone know about your neck pain and perhaps try a cervical pillow. I used to wake either in the night or in the morning with awful headaches. Since I have changed my pillow, I sleep much better and get fewer headaches.

    None of us can predict if you will need surgery. You need to see a medically trained spine specialist, but I would say that carefully guided exercise is definately worth doing to improve things as much as you can.

  • Jellyhall, I've made my pilates teacher aware of my neck problems so we're keeping an eye on the exercises that am doing. Doing the front crawl in swimming moving my head from side to side aggrevates it big time so I'm sidelining swimming for a while. Did you know that doctors recommend swimming to help improve your back but if your arm strokes are not perfectly straight each time you can actually be damaging your discs without you knowing? I found that out recently and was quite alarmed by this.

    I have been getting severe headaches this last few days and just put it down to stress but maybe its connected to my back. I will def look into getting a cervical pillow.

  • I had found that swimming often made my neck sore for over 10 years. I never really thought that I had a neck problem, just that the swimming made it sore. Now I know that I have a lot of degeneration in my neck, it all makes sense!

    I started swimming to try to help my lumbar spine and sciatica, but it just made it worse. That was before I realised what the problem was, and that I needed to have a fusion to stabilise my spine and a laminectomy to get the pressure off my nerves.

    Headaches can definately by caused by neck problems.
    Worth trying a cervical pillow. I hope you get the great relief that I have.

    Keep the medical people informed of all your pains and symptoms. Take care.

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