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Doctor's are giving me no Hope

SarahanayaSSarahanaya Posts: 2
edited 06/11/2012 - 9:02 AM in Chronic Pain
I recently went to the ER cause of severe pain i was suffering in my lower back. The doctor there said it was 2 herniated dics and a Bugling one cause all the pain. SO I thought that finally i had a source for the pain. I get refered to physician who then puts me on NORCO and Tanzidine for the pain. Giving me 60 pills of NORCO and 30 of the Tinanzidine. I went to an Ortho doctor today who told me that not only could he not quote " see anything in the scans " but he thinks this maybe all underlying from my BiPolar disorder. I've had this same line given to me in the past when i brought up pain in my back not only do i feel embarrassed but i also feel like im being looked at as a crazy person who just wants drugs. Now im stuck without any medication since i ran out 2 days before i met this doctor , the physician who was giving me this medication said that this doctor would need to help me but he neither helped me or even acted like he wanted to care. So now im really sick and in so much pain i don't know what to do . Can anyone give me some advice im 24 i shouldn't be in this much pain. I just want to be without pain able to take care of my daughter.


  • see another doctor. i dont think medication is the long-term answer to a herniation problem.
  • MetalneckMetalneck Island of Misfit toysPosts: 1,385
    and the report that he was working from that stated the opposite of what the ortho said to clarify just what the heck is going on!!

    A consult with a "spine trained" orthopedic surgeon and/or neurologist would be my next move (after the above mentioned records are obtained).

    Gotta get 2 or 3 of these guys/gals stating the same thing(diagnosis).

    Keep us posted and good luck ... I hope you can get clarification and relief.


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  • Sorry to hear that happened to you. That's horrible that they would he blamed bi-polar for back pain! I don't know what's wrong with docs these days.

    I had a similar experience. Saw two doctors who didn't seem to care what was actually wrong (one diagnosed piriformis syndrome, in direct contradiction to my symptoms, and wholly ignoring the xray). I got a decent one on the third try. He immediately ordered an MRI and put me in a lumbar corset, which has been a Godsend.

    You are not going to find a doc who will keep subscribing opiates. As near as I can tell, they very rarely do that anymore, short of hospice situations. See a spine specialist ortho guy and get a solid diagnosis. What's causing all the havoc in your spine? Discs just don't herniate and bulge for no reason.

    It sounds like when you get a solid diagnosis, your options will be surgery and/or physical therapy. Possibly a spinal injection?

    You are really young to be facing this stuff. You have to be a fighter when it comes to being treated. That's what I had to do anyway.
  • They usualy bkow you off when disc bulge is not significant and they dont feel surgery is needed for it at the time, probkem with that is disc many times can be leaking and dont always show up on mri,

    Pain specialist can do injections along with discogram to try to find the pain generator and relay that info back to the dr who might then consider surgery,

    All this too often can be a long process when its not clear what is the cause,
    You can have a bulge even at multiple levels as many do and somethimes problem is not even caused by that bulge all together,

    Spine seems to be 1 of the most complicated to treat and treat with the right surgery and treatment when its not perfectly clear what the cause is,

    Thats 1 of the reasons some have surgery and they get worse after surgery when wrong surgery was done and original problem is now 10 times as bad as before,

    Many cases it does seem as if its a guessing game even by dr,s,

    Ps. Bipolar should have nothing to do with a persons back pain and sounds as some bs excuse when they dont know what the true cause is,

    Good luck,
    Flexicore ADR 2004 resulting nerve damage l4l5 Fusion 2006 same level, 2009 hardware removal with lami !
    2012 scs implant ,
  • Hi Sarah,
    Welcome to sh.
    I would definitely go to er and get copy of report and the original cd or film.

    Then I would get another opinion.
    I am surprised the er doc gave you meds at all.
    Sounds like you need to see another doc. It's often so exhausting finding the right doc patient fit.

    Also keep a medical journal. It helps when your going to different docs.

    I think that is just beyond mean, and unprofessional of a Ortho or any doc say this is from ur bipolar. Wow

    I have had my share of the revolving docs doors, and some very bad docs.
    Keep searching and I hope you find a doc that will really listen to you.

    It's usually the other way around it's usually the er docs that are off.
    neck,bone spurs pain started 04, back issues and fusion l4,l5 06~hardware removed.
    good few yrs. 09 pain sharp, numbness feet,legs, diagnosed fibro, neurop. legs.lung issues.
    daily goal do good thing for someone.
  • Get a copy of the test and go see a neurologist pronto. Also, if you have a pain mgmt place in your area - go there. They will give you pain meds in the interim. You are correct, nobody should have to live like that - it's crap given the variety of pain meds available. See Ginger's post on doc's giving pain meds - very good.
  • Edit from Original:

    I meant to put that i got the outpatient forms and also everything the ER doctor had written what was wrong. My blood pressure is High but my mom said it was cause of the pain ? I didn't know pain caused high blood pressure.

    I have an appointment with my Regular physician tomorrow , I'm hoping that the Ortho doctor hasn't said anything for the fact i think that guy thinks all of my pain is in my head. I'm tired of no one believing me and blaming my mental illness for the problems i have.

    All i want to do is be a 24 year old who doesn't feel like an old women. My dream is to be without medicine able to excercise and play with my daughter without having to lay in bed in pain for a whole week.
  • I have had numerous medical professionals tell me my BP was elevated due to pain.
    Good luck to you, hope you get some answers, work with your Drs and seek second opinions when necessary. Don't let this beat you...
    laminectomy c4/c5 2008, ACDF c4-c7 Jan 20 2014 sched
  • I have been dealing with lower back pain for about a year now and have had all kinds of scans & x-rays. Now my Doctor is telling me that they found that I had an extra vertabra, instead of the normal L1 - L5 I have an extra one L6. Has anyone out there heard of this or maybe has the same problem? I keep waiting for my Dr. to find me a specialist and so on. So frustrating, is this where all the pain comes from? I'm sure I am not the only person to have this. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appeciated!!
  • Yep - I agree with the folks here. Your medical records are just that -- YOURS. You are entitled to a copy of any films or records the doctor wrote saying you had herniated and bulging discs, and you should get a copy and take them to a neurologist or a spine clinic. I would recommend going to a spine clinic at a research hospital if you have one near you, as they are generally more helpful than your average neuro/spine office.

    Best of luck. Even those of us who do not have bi-polar disorder are treated as drug seekers when we end up at the doctor's for these kinds of problems, so don't feel too badly marginalized. It just comes with the painful territory, unfortunately. And yes, any time you are in a lot of pain, your BP will be elevated.

    3 level spinal fusion, L3/4, L4/5, L5/S1, November 2008. Stiff, but I can walk.
  • Blaming your pain on your Bi-polar is beyond wrong and I am sorry that happened to you. And yes your mother is right, your blood pressure is up because of your pain. One time I was having a kidney stone and my blood pressure was so high they rushed me from triage right to a room, the doc immediately came over and ordered IV pain meds before any testing or anything. It's amazing what pain can do. it also raises your heart rate.

    I know it isn't easy or fun, but just keep searching for the right doc. Once you find a good one who will listen and treat you with respect, it will be worth it. Sometimes it amazed me that some of these docs are still in business with the way they treat patients. And I am not talking about the best of the best with just a bad bed side manor. I am talking about the typical docs we all get referred to. Listen to what your gut is telling you.
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