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could any of this cause my headaches?

edited 04/03/2014 - 7:50 PM in Neck Pain: Cervical
I just got my cervical MRI back after a car accident. I have pain that radiates up my neck to my head and down to my shoulder and into my arm and fingers. I have swelling (as seen on sonogram) deep in my neck that was pushing on nerves and cause my shoulder to atrophy. Here is my MRI : congenial fusion c6-c7, loss of lordotic cervical curve, small bone spurs on c4, c4, c6, 2 millimeter bulges on 3-4 and 5-6, 3-4 has a broad base protrusion with mild canal narrowing exacerbated by congenit shortened pedicles and moderate to severe stenosis on the left of 7. Do you know if any of these could be causing my headaches?


  • LizLiz Posts: 7,832

    Liz, Spine-health Moderator

    Spinal stenosis since 1995
    Lumber decompression surgery S1 L5-L3[1996]
    Cervical stenosis, so far avoided surgery
  • I couldn't translate it if I tried anyway. What I can tell you is that I get migraines sometimes. I have noticed that sometimes I get a lump the size of a walnut right at the base of my skull, & my shoulders become rock hard. I take imitrex, which works pretty well & doesn't knock me out. I also use Biofreeze on my shoulders & the lump & it helps some. Sometimes I add in a flexiril as well.

    I think whenever your neck is "out" it could cause a headache, at least that's been my experience, but you should talk with your doctor. You might try a google search too, something like "symptomns of..." & see if headaches are a symptom.

    Regardless, you have it figure out a way to deal with the headaches, because they can certainly be debilitating. Talk with your dr about a treatment plan, maybe pt or something, hopefully not surgery. You also need something to get rid of the headache when it comes on. The good news is that it doesn't neccassirly have to be a narcotic. Some people do well with OTC's, or even an extra shot of caffeine.

    Hope you feel better soon
    We can't always control the cards we are dealt in life, but we can control how we play the hand
  • It sounds like what I had before my surgery. I understand what liz said about not being able to diagnose you on this forum and that you hqve to talk to your NS. In this case i can give you my pre op experiences. You can read my little short bio on my profile and you will see the extent to your similarities. Which part of Cali are you from. I am in San Diego. I am 3 weeks post op today and i have to say so far its the best decision i made in my life and if I had to make a decision again I will have it done the same way. The quality of life prior to my surgery were horrible i was loosing feeling and grip in my right arm and numbing tingling sensation all the way down my right fingers. Massive migraines, neck and shoulder pains. I could not find the right position to sleep at night and i could not sleep at night. 3 weeks down the road I sleep like a baby no more shooting pains and numbing, i have not had one migraine and my neck and shoulders feel great. I have full strength in my grip in my right arm.

    Everyone have different experiences I know that and it all depends on the severity of the damage done to your nerves and the experience of your surgeon and his surgical team.

  • edited 04/04/2014 - 6:51 PM
    Bernie, I am in Los Angeles. Msg - I do all of those things - same drugs too but nothing stops it! I was prescribed Norco by my Ortho but it makes me very very paranoid. I have been getting PT on my shoulder and it is coming back up not totally in line with the left but only an inch below now but still looks like the muscle is wasted. My right arm still feel so tired. Its strange to walk around with only an arm thats tired on the rest of a body thats ok... that is until the headaches kick in... Migraines so bad that sometimes I become disoriented... The PT I am going to say that my pain doesnt have anything to do with my MRI findings but Im pretty sure a "protrusion" esp on 3-4 would create all the symtoms I am having from my headaches down to my fingers from what I read. I have definitely experienced a lot of weird DR in this injury. EDITED
    I feel like they all think you are faking it, crazy, hypochondriac, or a drug addict. My Ortho has not seen my MRI yet but someone in his office said based on the MRI he probably will refer me to a Neurosurgeon for a second opinion.


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  • Dont stop at the 2nd opinion go get a third on your own and not one that your Dr referred you to just so you know there isnt any kind of conspiracy going on. Atleast thats what I thought how my situation was being handled. Get a copy of your mri in a CD and compare it with other people MRI's on youtube and other forums. You need to be an advocae for yourself and thats what I had to do. I made my decision on which NS I thought had most experience. .
  • edited 04/04/2014 - 1:15 PM
    Yeah its really frustrating as all of this manifested after a moderate car accident - however with in hours I had this hot pain from behind my right ear to my finger.. everyone treated me like I was crazy and exaggerating.. Until my shoulder atrophied and then suddenly everyone believed me.. but now after PT the shoulder is better everyone is just saying oh well it was just the muscle in the shoulder swelling.. meanwhile I still have the original pain from my neck to my finger and migraines.. The migraines are only controllable if I eat a very strict anti-inflammatory diet. Otherwise, I can't leave my house. I cannot imagine how things would go if I wasn't.. the problem is all of the things I am doing are just minimizing it. I cannot eat an anti-inflammatory diet forever! Its very restrictive and luckily I live in LA where you can have gluten free, dairy free etc and not one looks at you like you're nuts. I am not working at the moment because I work in film which is very physically demanding and on a film set I will not get to pick and choose my food so much. It's almost like by not putting myself through torture everyone thinks that they're isn't anymore problem because my symptoms are minimizing because of my own management! I think perhaps I should visit a headache specialist? Perhaps a spine dr is less inclined to talk about headaches etc. I do not want to have surgery especially since these are only bulges but its so frustrating to have Drs treat you like you are a hypochondriac.
  • I think if the doctors are treating you like you're crazy its time to seek a new doctor. They should not be treating you that way. That is very unprofessional not to mention RUDE and dont deserve to be in business. If you like I can refer you to my NS down here in San Diego.

  • I have similar issues with my neck. I've had to go to ER three times this year because of the severity of the headaches. And I know they are coming from my neck. I can just tell. It's the same thing every time. It starts in my neck and works it way up. In the end, every bone, and muscle in my face hurts beyond anything I can take and typically turns into a migraine on top of the facial and neck pain. I hope you feel better soon.
    1992 L5/S1 Laminectomy
    2001 L5/S1 Second Laminectomy
    2008 L5/S1 Fusion.

    Current Condition:
    C5-C6 disc herniation
    C6-C7disc bulge
    C2-C6 Spinal Stenosis and Foramina Stenosis, facet joint degeneration and osteophyte
  • I went to a pain management Dr for the headaches and they are occipital neurologia (sp?) - I am having steroid injections tomorrow. Migraine drugs don't work on these headaches, which explains why I still have them!
  • dangbackddangback Posts: 30
    edited 08/22/2015 - 3:53 PM
    Thanks. It's been a while since I've been on. I did end up in pain mgmt for over a year. And I also got the shots which greatly decreased those horrible migraines. I've finally had surgery, two-tier fusion and discectomy. And so far, 5-weeks post is not looking so great for me. Not so much headaches, rather horrible spine pain. I've had 3 prior surgeries and all were immediate considered a success for me because within a week I was basically pain free. Not this time. I'm older now, 52 so I'm hoping that that's the reason. It's just taking longer to heal??? Trying to stay positive!
    1992 L5/S1 Laminectomy
    2001 L5/S1 Second Laminectomy
    2008 L5/S1 Fusion.

    Current Condition:
    C5-C6 disc herniation
    C6-C7disc bulge
    C2-C6 Spinal Stenosis and Foramina Stenosis, facet joint degeneration and osteophyte
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