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17 years old with a l4/l5 and L5/S1 disc bulge.

Josh. NJJosh. N Posts: 3
edited 08/11/2014 - 8:05 AM in Lower Back Pain
Hello everybody, this may be long but I'd appreciate some help on this situation because i am a little confused on what to do next.

So i play football in highschool and around October of last year I've noticed a little stiffness in my lower back that didn't really hurt so much. Not knowing what it was or whether it was something serious i continued playing the rest of the season. Now at the time the pain would only come when i practice and it would go away immediately after practice was over. Now about 2 months later with the same amount of stiffness i decided to go see a doctor who then told me that it could be a muscle sprain and i just needed to ice it. Which i did, i also had weight training so i started lifting and the stiffness began to hurt just a little bit so i returned to my doctor who then sent me to PT. So while i was at PT they told me that my hips were misaligned and they needed to put it back in place and they had me doing stretches and i did feel a little bit better and they told me it would be fine to work out again. So i continued to lift in weight training and it came to this point when i was trying to do squats i couldn't lift it and my posture was bad. That's when i felt my back feel ten times worse and my leg pain started. So it's months later and i still feel the same amount of pain which are in my lower back, my left hip, my left calf and my left foot and it is really ruining my life because i can't play sports, sit down in school or anywhere else. It is hard to walk but it's doable, and i wake up with a lot of pain. Right now i am seeing a chiropractor and it isn't helping at all. I heard that surgery isn't as bad as people say since everyone is different and i would rather have surgery than live with this pain because i don't want to go off to college like this. Any advice would help. Sorry for my grammar and vague summary I'm kind of speeding through this and I'm on my phone but seriously any advice would really help because i think I'm beginning to fall into depression.


  • SnabojSSnaboj Posts: 7
    edited 08/11/2014 - 8:40 AM
    Hey man, I'm 17 too and I just posted a very similar thread about my herniated and bulging discs which have caused me 3 months of back pain and sciatica.

    First of all, have you had an MRI to confirm what exactly the problem with the discs is? Your nerve roots are definitely pinched like mine, which is causing you the pain.I strongly recommend against a chriopractor because they cannot put your disc back into place. From my experience chiropractors are a complete waste of money; mine told me I had an SI joint problem and that he would "realign my pelvis" until it would go back to it's normal place. After 3 months I finally had an MRI and it confirmed a herniation at l3-4 and two bulging discs at l4-5, l5-s1. The MRI did cost a lot, but atleast I know what exactly the problem is and what options I have.

    If your discs are only bulging and you can handle the pain, I would strongly recommend againt a surgery. We are too young and the pain does ease over time. I've done a lot of research on disc problems and surgery is generally a last resort for very painful herniations. You have to stop lifting, as have I (I injured mine in the gym doing deadlifts). It puts was too much stress on your spine and it will only cause your discs to bulge more or even herniate. Swimming, walking and stretching are great for keeping your body active. My pain is still pretty severe at month 3, but it has improved a bit and I am going to try to deal with it for atleast 3 more months before even considering surgery. If you are not taking anti-inflammatories you should get on those asap. Your discs pressing on the nerve root cause a lot of inflammation which increases pain and harm the nerve. Anti-inflammatories will help ease some of the pain.

    If you have more questions PM me, I can show you a lot of good sites and videos which shed more light on disc problems. I know how hard it is mentally. I'm not one to cry and whine, but this really got to me and has ruined my excitement for first year of university next month. Remember that we are young and have plenty to look forward to in life. We'll get through it.
  • Josh. NJJosh. N Posts: 3
    edited 08/11/2014 - 9:01 AM
    Good to hear another person at my age to know how i feel, i have had an mri and i got the results and apparently it is a minor bulge since it isn't showing any really big herniations on the picture and i was told that it is minor but i wonder why I'd feel this much pain. And i don't lift anymore and i stretch everyday and even tried swimming atleast once a week i was told drinking lots of water and bouncing on an excersize ball will help the healing process since the disc gets no blood supply so you have to pump it manually. And same as to you i will give it a little more time before considering surgery since I've recently got into a car accident that made things worse.
  • Did you have your MRI recently? If you lifted weights or got into a car accident after the MRI then you could have possible herniated the bulge if the pain is worse now.. I know how much it sucks to see all your friends active and living normally while you can't stop thinking about this pain. It's really made me appreciate the things I once took for granted.
  • Josh. NJJosh. N Posts: 3
    edited 08/11/2014 - 1:47 PM
    I also am thankful for the things i had In the past and I'm still thankful that I'm at an early stage and receiving information from others because things could always be worse. But the funny and not so funny thing is that i was heading to the hospital to get an mri and that's when i got into a car accident. So i had to reschedule and when i did get the mri it didn't look so bad.
  • KeegurKKeegur Posts: 10
    edited 08/12/2014 - 5:57 PM
    I would just go to a specialist in your area
  • While we tend to recommend seeing at least two spine surgeons, if surgery is recommended, seeing more doctors is not always a good idea. If surgery isn't necessary, visiting too many surgeons will eventually lead you to one who will do surgery, even when it is not medically necessary.
    There is also the problem that is created by not having one specific doctor treating you, and following your treatment program. It creates confusion for the doctors, for the patient, and treatment failures. It is important that you find one doctor, and allow him to guide your treatment program, not use multiple ones.
    Bouncing on a ball, unless you are told to by your surgeon or physical therapist can do more harm than good. Those balls are used with specific excercises and you can't "pump" a disc up manually by bouncing on a ball.
    I am reading a lot of erroneous information on this thread that could be detrimental for someone who doesn't know better so please watch the suggestions.
  • I would add that nsaids can do more harm than good. For people with chronic pain in their lower back, nsaids are not really a long term solution for the pain. The problem is if you pop them like candy over the long term they will ruin the inner lining of your stomach and potentially set you up for some auto-immune diseases (do a search on "leaky gut" syndrome). I recommend ice packs for calming down inflammation in the back, stay away from nsaids as much as you can if your problem looks to be a long-term condition.
  • Just wanted to mention that my daughter experienced similar circumstances except she is a pitcher for softball. Through a bone scan it was identified that she had a fractured vertabrea. Though it has been at least 4 months now. Her doctors have worked really hard on strengthening her core. Insane excercises and they say to measure success on how long the pain lasts after. Her last dr appt her dr feels the fracture has healed and she can expect some pain for a while with excercise. The pain is more ache now and not pinch pain. She is currently in training for the hockey season.... She is a goalie....she is currently experiencing pain but we think it is due to a deep muscle beside the spine tensing up because it thinks it stil needs to protect the spine...heat, ice , acupuncture and massage seems to alleviate the pain. We don't us drugs ..all stretching..... Don't know if this will help a lot but since your symptoms were so similar to my daughters I thought I would share....good luck. And focus on strength inn your core muscles
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