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Cervical herniated disc

mrb32114mmrb32114 Posts: 2
edited 12/19/2014 - 2:43 AM in Neck Pain: Cervical
I have moderate disc bulge c5/c6 & c6/c7 with left foraminal stenosis, minor degeneration of thoracic region, grade 1 isthmic spondylitis thesis L5/S1, which shows no cord compression this was in 2012.I also suffer with my hips which I have had a xray done and it shows both sides of the femoral head a bulky, I'm awaiting mri...I'm thinking fai femoral acetabulum impingement. .The problem being despite these scans showing the obvious degeneration signs and my family history of early onset of osteoarthritis, my gp is refusing to accept my debilitating pain is caused by DDD because I am only 31, Some days I can't sit up by myself as it's as if my neck is going to snap, I can't lift my arms because I feel there is no power, not even enough to put my own meds in my mouth, on other occasions my lower back pain is so extreme I can't take the weight of my own body, so I have to be carried to the toilet, on 1 occasion I was stuck upstairs for near on 3 weeks as I couldn't negotiate the stairs, I was lucky the bathroom was upstairs, I get shooting pains down my arms, sometimes total loss off power in my arms and legs, for 3 years i have been goings in circles with my gp trying to get tbe proper help, despite all this he keeps putting it down to fibromyagia as he thought I was after benefits....The fibro diagnosis has hindered me so much where I have had to resort to being my own gp which is a disgrace, does this sound like DDD or a psychological syndrome? I know I haven't got fibro as my pain tolerance was very high until my neck an back went completely, I have suffered always but worst past 4 yrs, I've lost numerous jobs because of all this, I've worked most of the 17 yrs since I left school an I refuse to accept it's a syndrome....Plz help, anybody else experienced similar problems? P.s I would like 2know if a herniated disc can Inflame an cause cord compression and ease off by the time the mri is done(usually about 4 days after symptoms start
Thank in advance....MrB


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    A disc bulge and a herniation are two different animals........a bulge is simply one side of the disc which is a bit more outpouched than oval on one side. Normally, unless there is contact with a spinal nerve root or the bulge , it is not considered to be a pain generator, or if there is a tear in the annulus. If you were to draw an oval, and then make one side a bit more convex than the other side, you would see an image of a disc bulge. They are usually what are termed broad based, meaning that it is longer than it is wide in dimension.
    Have you considered seeing a board certified spine surgeon for a consult? While seeing your primary doctor when you first have a flare up of back pain is always a good choice, for ongoing problems, you need to see the proper doctor to get the proper treatment and diagnosis. That comes from a spine surgeon. Most patients who consult with a spine surgeon do not require surgery, but the surgeon can make treatment recommendations and order any imaging studies that he feels may need to be done, and suggest the proper follow ups with the correct specialists.

  • Thank for your swift reply, I apologise it's 2 herniated discs with moderate bulging, I seen a spinal consultant at the beginning of November but he was very vague, he kept saying the is nothing he can do surgically for me which I was thankful in a way but still frustrated, he said he would refer me to the pain team which I am sti awaiting, when I have phoned my doctor during a flare up they have just prescribed me Diazipam to relax me which does no good, my doctor says home visits are for the terminally ill etc so they never get to see me during a proper flare up that's just my neck my frustration comes from the gp thinking there is no cause for the pain I'm in...but I don't think he understands grade 1 isthmic spodylolisthesis is a fracture within the confinement of a vertebrae as well as the 25% slippage. ... I know that's the source of the pain in my lower back as I can feel it, he keeps telling me he's got patients who live fine with spodylolisthesis but I am not his other patients. ...would the degeneration in in my cervical region 2 herniated discs with moderate disc bulging an left sided foraminal stenosis, minor degeneration in thoracic region an the grade 1 spodylolisthesis L5/S1 be classed as DDD? Thanks ...MrB
  • Herniations are a outpouching of an area of the disc.......the direction of the outpouching is what is important and the size of course........a disc bulge is as I described above......they are not the same thing. Why can you not go into the office during a flare up? Patients in most situations are required to go into the office to see their doctors, even immediately post op, so his request for you to come in is not unusual. Spondylolysthesis is not a fracture, spondylolysthesis is simply a slippage of one vertebre over another......there are degrees of slippage . A first degree slippage is anywhere from a very minor slip of 1% of the vertebrals width to 25% of it........
    I am not sure why you feel that you can not go into the office for appointments but , there are many of us who are required to go in, with much more severe issues than what you are describing.
    I am not minimizing what you are going through, but if the surgeon told you that surgery is not necessary, then the bulging is not severe enough to warrant surgery, and the slippage may not be as significant as you believe it to be. The foramen is an little hole on the side of the vertebra where the nerve roots exit on each side of the spinal cord, but it is the severity of all of these conditions that determines what needs to be done......
    As far as DDD goes, all of us, over the age of 21 or so are going to show some level of DDD in our spines, but that doesn't mean that it is causing pain or is seriously debilitating. As in all things spine related, it is the severity of the conditions that determines the treatment needed.
    If you are unsatisfied with what you have been told by the surgeon and your primary, perhaps seeing another surgeon might be reassuring for you?
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