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Atlas subluxation scary symptoms

MerileeMMerilee Posts: 1
edited 05/02/2015 - 10:30 PM in Neck Pain: Cervical
I am a 24 year old female. I have always been very healthy, all organic foods, take vitamin supplements, go hiking. Last year I was in two rear ended car accidents pretty much back to back. Six months later I started having this weird brain fog feeling. Dizziness and neck pain and low back pain. The pain was bearable but not the brain fog. It has progressively gotten worse. Other symptoms began to emerge a few months ago including a very heavy sort of weakness that spreads through my entire body, tingling feet, brain fog like I can't think, and dizziness. Not vertigo. I was given a ct scan last month and diagnosed with reversal of the cervical curve. After the diagnosis, I began going to an upper cervical specialist who took very detailed images of my neck and showed me my X-rays and told me I have atlas subluxation. He said that is what is causing my brain fog. He said my brain is only functioning at 30-40 percent because my neck and spine is tilted and therefore putting immense pressure on my brain stem and cutting off some of my blood supply and glucose that my brain needs. He said that it is pretty severe but he has seen worse. He said that since I am young he expects me to be able to bounce back after a few adjustments. He is an amazing doctor and not at all a chiropractor. He does not crack my neck at all but he presses on my atlas and tries to rotate it bAck to the correct position. I saw the X-rays myself and they do not look like a normal neck X-ray at all. The first time he adjusted me I was immediately better. No more brain fog or weakness. This lasted two days. He adjusted me again four days later and I did not feel better. I feel the same. Intense brain fog, so weak I can barely get out of bed. I have lost jobs because of this and can't even walk around the store without feeling like I am going to pass out. Blood work is normal. Ct scan and MRI of brain is normal. The upper cervical specialist says the atlas subluxation is making me feel this way. Is that true? I am very scared and worried about my deteriorating health. Please some insight. Anyone.

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  • adfb007aadfb007 Posts: 1
    edited 09/25/2015 - 10:02 AM
    Hi there!
    Im so sorry! I was just researching on atlas/axis sublimation instability and saw your forum. I have suffered with the same thing for as long as I could remember. Im 27 now and happy to say after countless, hopeless years I am on way to recovery and can see the finish line. I actually had a reverse curve of 12 degrees and did traction exercises for 4 months diligently and put 36 degrees on my neck to a positive 24 degrees. Ideally the neck should be positive 30-40 degrees I believe.. so I still have some to go. But such a spinal deformity can cause millions of problems, for me and it sounds like for you.. it caused a complete lack to think or concentrate = brain fog. Brain fog doesnt even began to explain the feeling. I don't know about you, but I had vision problems, I even thought it was my vision years back and took vision therapy, I went so many routes for help and invested much money. Finally after years of it getting worse, I was lost in depression and anxiety and was ready to give up.. very suicidal. I had no idea what was wrong with me. It wasn't anything people could visually see, nor understand, so it wasn't credible and i felt so alone, because all I ever heard was "but you look fine". Now I am a fighter, and was so scared to lose my dignity and become a failure in life, so I couldn't for the life of me let it take over me. So after loosing my marriage over his usableness to understand and my usableness to try anymore, I enrolled into massage therapy school, wanting a fast way to learn about the body and maybe understand what was happening to me. I spent 9 months in school. I learned a lot and could understand my anatomy and think in sink with my anatomy. Its been about 1.5 years since I finished. I finally could tell it was in my head, the back of my head to be precise. It was so hard to trigger point where my misery stemmed from, I hurt everywhere, was so tired and fatigued and felt so backwards and twisted. I went to a chiropractor who specialized in upper spine treatment. He did 3 x-rays of my neck. Thats where I found out about my negative 12 degree cervical spine. He ordered me equipment totalling to a whole 90 dollars and I was on my own to either make it work and be diligent and put the work in or like many unfortunately hardly touch it and give up. Well, seriously giving up was not an option, it was really surviving or dying for me. I could no longer live in the condition I was in. Anyways, I have done years of research and have experienced this hell the body can be if not treated and taken extremely serious. Spinal reversal or kyphosis can cause so many problems to the point of leaving a person hopeless. The axis and atlas can be severely misplaced causing it to be that much worse and unable to figure out where your head and body belong in space. Oh, I forgot to mention that I also went to a doctor like you... NUCCA specialist.. he did find lots of issues with my c1-c2 and I entertained his help a few months, but unfortunately never experienced relief or change. You see, fascia controls your body. You must develop new movement and retrain the neck and mind to slowly adapt to a new position. Fascia will then melt away and allow the muscles keeping you reversed to slowly release and very slowly change happens. I strongly urge you to find your way through this and I would love to help if you would like. I have a strong testimony and a stronger passion to help others suffering with this condition. Look forward to hearing back from you!

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  • itsautonomicitsautonomic LouisianaPosts: 1,807
    Chiropractors always say the bones and massage therapists always say muscles, facia, or trigger points. It is what they are taught. That being said I do agree with many things being said here for help. All I caution is taking what they say as written in stone. You had an accident, there are numerous reasons why you might have the symptoms you do. It usually is a combination of things if time has passed. I had an accident and the chiropractor told me it was bones and the massage therapist said it was muscular so I treated both. They were not wrong per say, but they were addressing symptoms not the cause so it was a losing battle as far as long term success. You must always look for the root cause and it could be much more detailed than you can believe. Whiplash has many problems based in alignment, neurology and muscles.
    Do your due dilegence, trust you know your body and question everything if it does not fit. Advocate for yourself and you will be suprised what will be revealed trusting your body and instinct.
  • hi im glad i found your post as i too had atlas misaligned, but i only had one treatment and it solved my daily mograines andneck pain. I had it done by a traines atlas profilax profesional, and that may be what you need as chiropractors are not all trained in this area of the C1. cracking that bone is very avasive and its not actually the bone making the one be misaligned. The muscles infront of it are the reason it does not stay in its brith place. some people have misalignment from child birth and others from accidents. I think i was born with it and then whiplash made it worse. The tool marie cassalini used massages the muscles in the subbocciptal area and when they relax the bone slides into the natural place. This is non avasive and no cracking or strong movements are caused. It lasts about 20 mins to 40 depending how misaligned you are.  It hurts a litttle on the side that is more tilted. I left after treatment a new person. The bone should never come out again unless in a bad accident. It is rare that someone would need another adjustment. She then does a follow up treatment with a massage type tool that removes muscle memory. i am having this done on the end of feb. So far i have sent to friends to have it done and they are 80 percent out of pain so far too. I hadlost my life to these headaches and neck pain and now i have my life back.
    i would suggest finding a trained atlas profilax pro in your area or near by and speaking to them. I'm not saying a chiro cant do the adjustment but what they tend to do is so avasive it likely will come out of alignment agian and again.
    if you search atlas profilax you will find a list on google. I am inthe UK and used marie cassalini who i owe alot to for making me well after a year of despair.
    if theres anything you need to know about the treatment i had just let me know.
    my body is now changing every day from this, i am straighter, no head fog no anxiety no head or skull pain. I am aching as my hips and legs are moving into the correct place after a lifetime of being titled. the benefits of this treatment will be forever : )

  • Hi guys i am Now going on 7 years with Please send me as much information on any doctors that have helped. Im so done feeling Like This Please help 
  • DASmith1DDASmith1 Houston, TXPosts: 4
    Any updates? I am dealing with Atlas Sublaxation (3 weeks old). I'm seeing upper cervical specialist who has done one adjustment and two cranial sessions. Bad symptoms after the atlas adjustment in muscle soreness, body tiredness, muscle spasms, nervous system going crazy, increase heart rate every now and then. That lasted two days. After cranial work extreme headache the second time around and minor csf leakage from the ears (lasted 2 days). I also walked around the store for an hour and by the end my hear was racing. I have had non stop sweaty feet and palms. I hope I'm on the road to getting better. I'm only 26. 
  • Hi, I just got done with 3 months of treatment for my atlas subluxation. I originally went to the chiro for TMJ discomfort after doing testing and xrays it was determined my atlas was misaligned and has been for some time. I am in the US and I don't know of anyone here who manually sets an atlas, that would scare me to death. My upper cervical chiro has a machine that sets it. Once I had mine reset and then xrayed to make sure it was in the correct position I had immediate relief from anxiety, depression, OCD, rapid heart beat, jaw soreness, it was incredible. You MUST do the desensitization's, they retrain the central nervous system and reset your body to new normal's, plus it insures your atlas stays in place. This was the best money I ever spent, I've been on anti deppresants for over 12 years after having a panic attack and now I don't need them anymore. I finally feel normal again.
  • Gabby, are you in the US?
  • wyclf1, what type of doctor did you go see? what procedure did you have done? 
  • I have the same exact problem and symptoms you do. I saw a maximize living doctor, he discovered my reverse cervical curve. After knowing where my problem is he adjusted my neck, goal was to bring the curvature back to normal. My fogginess went away. My atlas is sometimes off due to my reverse curve. 
  • ctk1215cctk1215 Canada bc Posts: 1
    Might be a long shot but I sent you a message !

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