Night Owls - Can't Sleep Before 4-5 AM. Born This Way

Night Owls - Can't Sleep Before 4-5 AM. Born This Way

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Night Owls - Can't Sleep Before 4-5 AM. Born This Way

My issue isn't caused by back problems, although I do suffer from back pain.

I can't fall asleep before 4am or 5am, sometimes 6am.
My body says it's time to WAKE UP and be creative around 7pm, and I can't fall asleep until at least 4am.

I have tried it all. Pills just make me more groggy the next day and I sleep 12 to 14 hours only to be back awake at 4am.

I can force myself up in the morning, but I'm dead tired by 2pm and have to take a nap.

I have tried Melatonin, Ambien, Lunesta, Unisom, NO Caffaine, etc. I always feel crappy in the morning and afternoon, and fall back into my normal body rythem of go to bed at 5am, and get up at 2pm.

It's been this way my entire life. I remember being 2 or 3 years old sitting up all night by myself while my parents slept, sitting on the floor playing with my toys and looking at books.

I feel the most energy and the most creative between 11pm and 4am. I get most of my best work done between those hours.

It takes me 8 hours in the DAY to get done what I can get done at night in 4 hours.

This wouldn't be an issue, but I run a business that demands I'm up in the day. In addition my wife is ready to throw me out because I never come to bed at 11pm when she does.

PLEASE! Anyone have any hope for me? Anything?

Spizy

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Spizy

Hiya,
Welcome to Spine Health Hug . I dont have the problem you have Sleepy , i have been up in the night but thats due to pain Crying . Sorry i can not be more help to you Worried . You have been through it with your back problems though, you will find this site useful and helpful Smile . Check out the chat room . Wave

Angie x

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Spizy

My husband is a night owl like you!! Not a good mix with the morning person that I am, but we make it work. There are studies that suggest some people are just born that way!!

For as long as I could remember, I was up with the sun. By the time school got out, I was sleeping on the bus. I have for my entire life, not been able to function properly without a daily nap. Friends just can't grasp it. Ive been to doctors, had sleep studies etc.

The only thing we could figure, was RLS and mild sleep apnea. Waking me up all night long, so I wasn't getting restorative sleep. Therefore, would catch up in the mid day.

We all have different sleep patterns. Its just what we're born with.

Not sure if it will help, but here are some tips:
No TV before or during bed. No PC either.
1st thing in the morning, expose yourself to as much light as possible (tells the body to wake up)

Good Luck... Hope you can find the proper balance!
Amanda

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Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome

manalerie wrote:
My husband is a night owl like you!! Not a good mix with the morning person that I am, but we make it work. There are studies that suggest some people are just born that way!!

For as long as I could remember, I was up with the sun. By the time school got out, I was sleeping on the bus. I have for my entire life, not been able to function properly without a daily nap. Friends just can't grasp it. Ive been to doctors, had sleep studies etc.

The only thing we could figure, was RLS and mild sleep apnea. Waking me up all night long, so I wasn't getting restorative sleep. Therefore, would catch up in the mid day.

We all have different sleep patterns. Its just what we're born with.

Not sure if it will help, but here are some tips:
No TV before or during bed. No PC either.
1st thing in the morning, expose yourself to as much light as possible (tells the body to wake up)

Good Luck... Hope you can find the proper balance!
Amanda

Thanks Amanda for your supportive words and information.

I think I have what's called "Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome"
I have done some reasearch on it and it doesn't look like there is actually much good news for Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome. I have to say I do use the computer ALOT as it's part of my business, and I do make the mistake of watching TV in bed to try and fall asleep. Maybe I will try and cut it out for a week and see what happens.

Night time has been both a welcome, and a curse. As the "BED" is a bad place where I go and can't sleep. Yet night is when I wake up and feel the most active and productive.

My wife says it's imbarrasing for her because I sleep during the day. But I don't go to sleep until 6am. I worked ALL NIGHT while she slept. It's very frustrating for both of us.

Thanks again for your support and I welcome any other information on this and "Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome"

Aaron

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I have that exact same

I have that exact same problem. No one understands. I didn't get to sleep until my husband went to work this morning at 6 am. I usually sleep until noon and then force myself to get up so I end up only getting 6 hours of sleep a day. Today I slept until 2 in the afternoon though. My body was really tired from going to the gym yesterday.

I was just telling my husband the other day maybe it's just my body clock and it's the way I am. He'd like it if I went to bed at the same time as him also. He's gotten used to it though. Although on the weekends he wants me to get up earlier so I manage to get up at 11 am with only 5 hours of sleep and I'll feel terrible all day. My body just doesn't seem to want to be awake in the morning hours. I feel energized at night also.

When I was a teenager I used to be awake until 3 or 4 in the morning then have to get up to go to school and be so tired. Then as an adult I'd have to get up and be at work at 7 am and not be able to sleep until 3 am about. I did this for 7 years with one job I had working full time only getting a few hours of sleep for 7 years. One day I just decided I can't do that anymore and my next job I just worked in the afternoon so that really helped. So I know it can't just be a schedule thing since I got hardly any sleep each night for all of those years.

So there is a name for it you say I'm going to look it up.
Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome

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Night Owls...

I don't have the SAME problem as you, but I can relate to how you feel energized at night and ready for sleep very late (or early morning). I tell my husband if he wants the most help from me he shouldn't plan on my help until the late afternoon. It takes me forever to get up and around each day. I get the most done in the evening time. It's as if our home comes alive at that time.