Annular tears

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Annular tears

Has anyone heard or experienced an annular tear? I hope I have the anatomy right. A tear in the disc. Can it heal? And what kind of pain do you experience with a torn disc?

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Clarissa

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so sorry

Clarissa i haven't had a torn disc,but did know someone who did have one.she was on hear quite a long time ago and ended up needing surgery for it. she was in a lot of pain at the time and they didn't catch that it was torn for quite a while,some test they did found the leak.hopefully someone else will come along and give you more of an answer. good luck.

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Thanks Tammy for your

Thanks Tammy for your response.
Clarissa

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Tear

Yes, I have an annular tear along with several other issues. Will be having surgery.

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Crash21- Have you been told

Crash21- Have you been told it would heal (annular tear)? I hope your surgery helps your condition.

Thanks for your help,
Clarissa

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Clarissa

Will be seeing NS soon to really go over all the details. I will ask about the tear. However, I am expecting a fusion. So in my case, the answer would be no, it has not healed as I still have impingement on the nerves.

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I have annular tearing at multiplelevels

Hey Cla_gua,

I have annular tearing at C 3-4 C 4-5 and C 5-6. In MRI tests it shows the bulging discs there only it does not show the annular tearing.

On May 5th of this year I had a 4 level discogram (very very painful). The tears were found in this test. It is accompaiied with a CT scan. Besides the tearing of the annulus there are moderate to severe bulges at C 3-6 the worst being C 4-5 and C 5-6 which the discogram show most of the pain coming from. I am in the process of trying to get a date to have ACDF C 4-5 and 5-6. I am about to switch to an Ortho Surgeon. He sent me for an MRI of my rotator cuff and wants a new EMG. I had a Posterior Cervical Foraminotomy at C 3-4 and C 4-5 in January of this year. I was told that I would need later fusion. The foraminotomy only releived a few symptoms and all the rest seem to have gooten worse.

My Pain Management doc is the only one who has ever said that over time some people will heal from this but I am not sure how. He mentioned some type of thing that is not FDA approved yet that is some type of sealant that make be able to ais in stopping leakage in the future but that does not help us now.

All I know is I live with arm weakness and lots of burning neck pain that can go into other areas. I have burning pain under the scapula as well. SOmetimes my left arm feels very heavy or feels as if there is a blood pressure cuff around the bicep. Weird feeling.

Not sure if any of this information will help you but I thought I would give you what little info I have. Remember now I am not a doctor and everyone's body is different and experiences things differently.
You can always PM me and we can talk more in depth about things. Please feel free to do so anythime.

SO how did you hurt your neck?? What kinds of symptoms do you have?

I do know that this has been a tough road for me with the neck injury. When I was in the Car accident I was in the process of closing a 3 1/2 year workers comp case that led me to have 4 arm surgeries on my left arm. I was pain free and all healed in the arm when the MVA happened. I was not even on any pain meds anymore.
Next thing I know the arm workers comp case is closed and I have traded it for the neck injury.
Tough road for all of us!!

Anyway I hope this helps.

Chrissy

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Hi Chrissy- I hurt my neck

Hi Chrissy- I hurt my neck last year during the summer. The whole problem was started by a mva. I got an MRI in July of 07. It read two 2mm protrusions on c5-6 and c6-7. I went through pt and improved about 50%. I got two epidurals with no success. I went to an ortho in April and was order a new MRI and it read 2mm protrusion on c5-6 and minimial bulging on c6-7 and c7-t1. Ortho said not to worry I only had a large bulge on c5-6 and two minimials on the other. He said he doesn't know why Radiolisgist throw around protrusion all the time. He also said in about 10 yrs I'll be looking at surgery. By the way I was still in a lot of pain with pain running down both my arms. My PCP Dr sent me to a new PM Dr, who I love, 6 wks ago for trigger point injections. He read my MRI's and said I had an annular tear on c6-7. I didn't get the trigger point injectiosn because I had improved.He said that the MRI was cut so many times that the protrusion or big bulge at c5-6 was shown inaccurate. So who knows what I have. All I do know is that I have really bad muscle spasms still. The arm pain has gotten better.

I am sorry about your situation. I hope your surgery turns out great.
Best Wishes,
Clarissa

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annular tear

i got the results of my discogram today
I have two full-thickness radial annular tears at l3-4 level and l4-5 level.

weve been treating this for the last 14 months... i started with just a central disc bulge at l3-4 14 months ago,.. and now they are saying this..., i am to the point i can hardly sit on my own spine it burns so bad,.,

i have had more epidural ,shots in the last 12 months than i think a person should have.... ( arent there long term affects of doing to many???)

what is the recommended course of treatment for annular tears.. because my pain management doctor has been treating me the last 12 months ,. when i met with neurosurgeon in the office today.. he said he wouldnt do consider anything on a one time visit... im like ive been here every 3 weeks for the last 14 months..... ugh.... where does this end up going... i have failed physical therapy, chiro... his big suggestion was aqua therapy...., how does that heal the tear....., i had a l2 bilateral tsf today ( more epidurals) suppossedly could help mask the pain... ,but they havent to date.... help!!????

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hi

I have had a annular tear fixed,it was a day surgury,the water would help you,warm water will help it heal,i took baths,mine didnt heal on its own,so i had to have surgury,it was quit painfull to sit....

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tcr1130- I have researched

tcr1130- I have researched annular tears just a little. What I read is that some do heal. I am sure depending on how bad they are. A side effects of epidural is slow healing process. Cortisone slows down the healing process. My Dr. said I had a small tear in July 07 on c6-5 and MRI in April 08 showed it had healed. He was the first to even mention a tear. Maybe you can get the name of the type of surgery bigcat90 had and run it by your Drs. There are also herbs and supplements you can take to try help the healing. Go to your local vitamin store and ask them what would be good for your annular tears.

My two epidurals didn't work either. My PM Dr. told me they don't work if your problems are not with your nerves. I hope you find some kind of relief.

Best Wishes,
Clarissa

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